• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    It would be great to see them do this, march around with their “straight pride” bullshit, only to have the LGBTQ+ community cheering them on with signs about the first amendment and acceptance.

    Really drill into anyone who hasn’t been paying attention, who the good guys and bad guys here are.

    Probably a pipe dream since this would 100% be more about hate than acceptance.

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    Being a bit of a pragmatist.

    I’m probably as liberal as they come but I’m also older. When I do vote compasses I’m always square in the social and fiscal liberal columns.

    That said, I am friends with people from all walks of life and I can tell you the general consensus is that things have swung too far to the left and what we are seeing is a swing back to the right. It’s all a pendulum. I’ve had this conversation with pretty much every one from every background so it’s not just a white people thing. People need to understand that people from many different backgrounds being their own flavour of hatred and bigotry to the conversation. Asians are notoriously racist. Black people are notoriously homophobic (my African girlfriend doesn’t like my earrings or the fact I wear colourful socks for Christsake).

    What truly amazes me is how fast and how hard the pendulum has swung the other direction in America and damn does it not look good. In Canada it’s swinging right but far more measured and the hope is not much farther.

    Even as progressive as I am my daughter has an after school program called “Girls Inc” and I have thought to myself why don’t my sons have a Boys Inc to which the response in my head is it’s still a mans world and if I tried to make one I’d be accused of something negative I’m sure so I never pursue it.

    I will say right now if the expression is “a rising tide lifts all ships” we have not been paying adequate attention to the ships that are not rising as fast or as much. This is what is causing the pendulum swings IMHO and without addressing the deep underlying and systemic issues it’s only going to get worse.

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    Pride: “equal rights for all”.

    Straight pride: “all people are equal, but straights are more equal than others”.

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      These things always feel like someone shouting “I have a birthday too!“ at someone else’s birthday party.

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    Honestly, if done without any hate to LGBTQ+, I’m all for it. We need a nice hetero representation, and hetero relationships are beautiful. This does include trans people forming hetero couples, and hetero-demi-/asexuals, and many more, so it can even intersect with LGBTQ+ in some cases.

    All relationships and sexualities are beautiful, and hetero ones are no exception.

    But I doubt it’ll be done this way.

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      the point of pride is it’s about visibility: relationships in pop culture are almost entirely hetero… you just don’t see queer relationships at the ratio they exist in society… pride is all about celebrating the existence of queer existence and our relationships and culture

      if you add similar things for heterosexuals, it’s saying “we have everything most of the time and this 1 time where you’re seen, we want to be part of that as well”… or worse, want to draw attention away from it by being bigger

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        We (white people) gave black people the shortest and shittiest month to celebrate their heritage which a segment of us still removed about them celebrating a month meanwhile removed every month is White Heritage Month and this is what a large segment of the population feels and you cannot argue with feelings.

        Why do they feel this way? Let’s get to that and work to solve the problem.

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        I agree that hetero relationships get quite a lot of visibility, but it gets little positivity, which some people are quite sensitive to, especially among teenagers. Also, it enforces LGBTQ+ and cishets as two opposing sides, which they are not.

        Faced with (undoubtedly important) messages about how queer folks and their relationships are awesome and worthy of appraisal and attention, some of the hetero teens and even adults feel left out, like they’re not “cool” for just being the default.

        Obviously, they are no less cool than anyone else, and their relationships are no less beautiful. And we need to talk about that too, in no way to silence the rest, but to underscore that truly any relation to gender and sexuality is equally valuable. The very pushback on LGBTQ+ is partly fueled by the resentment for this lack of hetero positivity, and we need to remove any ground for it.

        LGBTQ+ and cishets are not on the opposite sides, they are all parts of the same spectrum, and so any confrontations between the two are as odd as bisexuals attacking homosexuals. To translate this idea, we should include cishets into the same positivity movement, while remembering the groups inside LGBTQ+ are still unjustly discriminated against.

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          Holding hands implies they’re trying to have sex. A penis, in a vagina? How do I explain that to my 4 year old?

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      Yeah, I’d say, if hetero people need an excuse to have fun and celebrate something, I’m all for it. But I have a sneaky suspicion that this is going just going to be used as a hatefest towards LGBTQ+ people instead. I would love to be proven wrong but I have a feeling that straight cis people who are open minded and accepting and not bigots, aren’t the ones who feel the need to go “what about straight pride / international men’s day?” whenever anyone else gets a bit of attention.

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        I’m cis-het and fully intend to go to the pride parade with friends in a different state. It’s going to be a great time! Idk why the largest groups feel like they need extra special attention.

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        On the other hand, the concerns themselves are real, and if they will be addressed in a way positive to everyone else, this will be great!

        So, we’ll see. Under current administration, the risks for it derailing into the hate fest are quite high, but fingers crossed.

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      I want you to say the same thing about black history month so you can understand how ridiculous this is.

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        What? Are you trying to say a white power march wouldn’t be full of racist twats?

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    Hundred bucks says the grinder app’s going to get a lot of traffic that weekend. There’s going to be very busy bus station bathrooms, and maybe Airport bathrooms? I don’t know if they have airports in Idaho.

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    I mean, ok. Pride isn’t exclusionary. Most gay people have straight parents, siblings, friends and so on. If you feel the need to celebrate being straight, that’s cool. If you think you’re a victim because you are straight then I might suggest some therapy.

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    This sounds like something a group of Incels would plan to get their buttocks to accidentally touch the buttocks of another young man.

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      And then like 3 people show up, because of course. They’re incels. They were never going to go anywhere.