• mlg@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    “They could have surrendered a long time ago and saved us from all this suffering,” said the woman, who asked not to be named for fear of possible retribution if her criticism were made public.

    Can’t tell if actual sentiment of a Gazan refugee or NYT bs’ing again.

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      If there’s one thing worse than getting ruled by Hamas, that’s Hamas unconditionally surrendering to Israel. What do you think would happen to Gaza’s borders if Netanyahu could do whatever the hell he wanted without insurgences nor opposition?

      All my support to Gazans for them to regain their own self-determination and democracy, but this might be the worst possible moment for Hamas to disappear from existence.

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        Something else will just pop up in its place. A lot of people who never supported Hamas had their lives ruined and want revenge against both Israel and Hamas.

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          Sure, but in the meantime, Israel would have the capacity to do absolutely anything they want, which would permanently cripple Gazans. If you want proof, look at the settlers in the West Bank, who have been eating Palestinian territory uninterrupted because the Palestinian Authority plays nice with them, even though they’re criminals.

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            6 months ago

            Well then where is Hamas on the West Bank if it’s about protecting Palestine?

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              Are you daft? “Well where is the UN on Xinjiang protecting the Uyghurs if it’s about protecting human rights?” Not all organizations have the means to achieve their goals. Think for two seconds before posting shit.

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                  6 months ago

                  I’m not attacking the UN, I’m establishing the comparison that explains why neither can do all they want so that you can understand why the argument makes sense. My mistake, because I assumed you did actually have working brain cells.

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                    6 months ago

                    when someone resorts to personal attacks in a conversation, it just means they lost. Have a wonderful night.