• Alaknár@lemm.ee
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    So do 100% concentrated evil, but they also wipe their arses with the constitution, set up concentration camps, and literally ruin the political and economic position of the US.

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      The democrats also set up concentration camps. And the US uses its political and economic position to commit genocide, ruining it is a good thing

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        You don’t get it.

        They are destroying the planet on top of all the other things.

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            If you can’t see the difference between a centrist party and a far-right fascist one, then I hold no hope for your political literacy going forward.

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              I can see that Biden held twice children at the border at one time than Trump at his highest. I can see that weapons and money to Israel skyrocketed under Biden. I can see that Obama alone prosecuted more whistleblowers than the US had prosecuted in its entire history.

              If you only count it as fascism when it starts affecting white people half as much as it was affecting the rest of us then you can’t be surprised we consider you just as much of a fascist as them.

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                Both

                And yet one of them does significantly more to ruin the planet than the other.

                If you want the highest possible chance of changing the world for the better, you want a party in power that is the least bad of the options available to you. That doesn’t mean that party is good in itself, but it’s certainly the best chance you’ll get.

                If you want to save the climate, for instance, the party that’s open to developing more clean energy, even if they still support fossil fuels in some capacity, is better than the one actively dismantling climate regulations, halting clean energy development, and increasing our fossil fuel production to an even higher rate.

                Nobody likes this duopoly, but when you live under one, you have to pick the side that will do the least harm in order to implement your own goals to reduce harm further.

                This doesn’t mean the Democrats are inherently good, but they’re certainly going to give you a better shot at improving the world than the neo-Nazis will.

                let’s leave it there

                Sure, I’ve now got nothing left to say.

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                No because that is only a half truth. You are willfully ignorant of the other half of the equation. One side is measurably more damaging to the US and the world overall. You don’t get to “both sides” this.

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                  Biden approved more and more fracking projects and oil exctraction hit record rates. Just because NBC kept saying everything was okay now doesn’t mean that it was, some of us were paying as much attention then as we did under Trump, unlike dems.

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            Are you conflating corporatism and concentration camps because they start with the same letter or are you really this fucking stupid?

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              Concentration camps have been a thing for most of the US’ existence, have become super widespread in recent decades (as in, the children in cages) and they’re completely bipartisan. At one point, there were twice as many children detained under Biden than at Trump’s highest.

              You might not have known it until now (doubtful) but if I know democrats, you’re gonna handwave it away even though you no longer have that excuse. Democrats are no more than the left wing of fascism and so is anyone who treats these abuses as irrelevant distractions from the real issues, that is, the comforts of white people.

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              Ruining the planet for everyone is worse than anything else and on that issue both sides are the same

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                It’ll be ruined much faster with the red party in control. I guess we are gonna speed run the decline thanks to people like you.

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                  If the only options are to keep ruining the world at a steady pace or speed it up then we’re cooked anyway (literally)