What I mean is, why are they so reactionary?
They were once part of the Soviet Union, and while I am aware of the fact that after the USSR fell pretty much every country that was part of it fell into ruin (some bounced back), but there’s something about the Baltics that makes them stand out the most.
Besides Ukraine, they seem to be the most rabidly anti-communist/Russian and claim to have been colonized by the Soviets. I am very confused by all this and wanted to ask before I forgot.
What the fuck happened to the Baltics that made them like this? It’s like every time I see a Lithuania, Latvian, or Estonian flag on socials it is always paired with the most fascist shit I have ever seen.
Edit: added “socials” to be more specific.
I completely forgot that post existed and I even commented on it! This is so embarrassing, but thanks for linking it!
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They were colonised. During the soviet Union there was a rabid russification program. Back in like 2020 something like half of all cars in Latvia were on Russian plates. The anti communist sentiment is muddled with anti Russian sentiment. The baltics are a productive region, and during communism were having their wealth extracted to be used in the heartland to raise the living standards of less productive regions. Equity under communism was making them poorer. Communism doesn’t help everyone. Communism didn’t help the romanovs and it certainly didn’t help the baltics. Communism is an ideology that appeals to the worst off in society. As far as the union of Soviets go, the heartland and Kazakhstan gaining the most while Eastern Europe got royally screwed.
Oh and by the way fascism comes from the Italian fascismo meaning removed (as in the bundle of sticks made in to a broom) it symbolises that one might be weak but together they are strong. Fascism is national socialism with emphasis on nationality/race. It’s an evil ideology that the baltics as a rule reject in favour of Liberal capitalism.
Please stop using Fascism as short hand for late stage capitalism.
Communism didn’t help the romanovs
“Won’t someone think of the royals” is not something I expected to read today. 🤣
Comparing Lithuanians to Romanovs is an absolutely brutal roast of Lithuanians
Gediminid dynasty was as bad as Romanovs, but to compare every Lithuanian… wew.
Another feddit comment another banger
Chatgpt summary of all anticommunist bs
You’re fucking stupid and literally almost everything in your word salad is racist garbage, extreme exaggerations, or blatant lies based off your shitty persecution complex.
Secret speech but it’s 2025
And it’s not secret or much of a speech
Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.
During the soviet Union there was a rabid russification program
Korenizatsiya begs to differ.
The anti communist sentiment is muddled with anti Russian sentiment
Yes because in the minds of Nazis they are one and the same. Because russophobia and anti-communism both serve the agenda of the capitalist oligarchy to prevent the working class from organizing again and taking back the power.
The baltics are a productive region
Citation needed. Before the communists industrialized that region they had no notable industry and their societies were largely agrarian.
during communism were having their wealth extracted to be used in the heartland to raise the living standards of less productive regions
Talk about projection. This is demonstrably untrue if you simply look at supply priority maps of the Soviet Republics. The western republics received heavy preference in priority of development investment and goods supply.
Equity under communism was making them poorer.
Demonstrably false again, look at GDP and compare Soviet times with the pre-Soviet period. It is absolutely impossible to claim that the standard of living was not vastly better in 1989 than it was in 1939. It’s not even a contest, it’s worlds apart in terms of how people lived.
and it certainly didn’t help the baltics.
Again, citation needed. Compare what they looked like before socialism with what they looked like after socialism. How much infrastructure did they have? What was the literacy level? What were the living standards of the majority of people? How many factories did they have?
And has capitalism helped them? How much do they still manufacture? What have they built since destroying socialism? What are their electricity prices like these days? Why did so many people leave?
Communism is an ideology that appeals to the worst off in society. Communism doesn’t help everyone.
It’s an ideology that benefits and helps everyone except the exploiters and those who would like to live in luxury at the expense of the suffering and poverty of others.
As far as the union of Soviets go, the heartland and Kazakhstan gaining the most
Once again, provably untrue. The most highly developed regions after Moscow were all in the western part of the Union. The Eastern European republics and western Russia were the heartland. Certainly nothing east of the Volga got anywhere close to the amount of development that places like Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltics did.
It is also quite funny to see Kazakhstan mentioned because while it is indeed true that Kazakhstan greatly benefited from being in the Union, having virtually its entire modern agriculture, industry, infrastructure and urban areas built up during the Soviet times, usually this will not be admitted by anti-communists. Central Asian anti-communists will frequently cite the same kinds of false claims that you do with respect to the Baltics, complaining how they were supposedly held back and exploited by the Soviet Union while completely ignoring the historical reality of what those regions looked like before the Soviets developed them.
while Eastern Europe got royally screwed.
Is that why even to this day most of the infrastructure, roads, rails, power plants, cities, etc. in Eastern Europe are from Soviet times? If getting nuclear power plants, hydroelectric dams, factories, as well as having extensive infrastructure built to provide the vast majority of the population with electricity, water and gas is “getting screwed” then you and i have a very different definition of that term.
It’s an evil ideology that the baltics as a rule reject in favour of Liberal capitalism.
Doesn’t look that way when you see who they decide to hold parades for and elevate as national heroes (hint: they were involved with the SS and took part in pogroms and mass murders). “Liberal capitalism” is not at all mutually exclusive with fascism.
https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/146135/annawhit_1.pdf#page=362
KGB reports from Lithuania, too, indicated widespread excitement. The assistant director at an institute of experimental medicine reportedly told his acquaintances, “These are very important questions. Now there will only be national cadres. And in the Ministry of Internal Affairs almost all have been replaced with Lithuanians. This is being done very well. It has been necessary to deal with this question for a long time. In truth, it is being done very cunningly so as to gradually send all the Russians out of here.”¹³⁹
Another noted that the release of political prisoners had contributed to an atmosphere of greater freedom and expressed excitement about changing language politics: “They are removing people who do not know Lithuanian from their posts and in their place Lithuanians are being appointed. Everyone who doesn’t know the Lithuanian language is supposed to leave our region.”¹⁴⁰
Lithuanians across the republic expressed hope that a revised nationalities policy would lead to a Lithuanian resurgence at the expense of Russians and Russian. The impact was severe enough to precipitate a reaction: Russians in western republics complained of discrimination in letters to the Central Committee. Some complained of unfair hiring preferences; one went so far as to declare there to be a “pogrom of Russian workers” in Belarus. Others worried that Russians had nowhere to go.¹⁴¹
Kind of weird to have a ‘Russification’ that involves dismissing Russians from ministries. I’m very curious to read how those two phenomena go together. And that only scratches the surface.
The Romanovs deserved to be shot.
I love how ironic your username is.
Its like you ate a big bowl of anti-communist propaganda that was cooked up by “former” nazis working for the cia and nato and vomited it out so we could all see it and after we were done being disgusted by it you ate it all back up again so you can spew it out somewhere else.
I’m from Poland, and my family suffered to help end communism over there. In my view, late stage communism and late stage capitalism have similar pitfalls, i.e., centralised control over the means of production, a small entrenched elite, and massive failure of price discovery (goods under communism vs wages under capitalism)
Early stage capitalism and early stage capitalism before all the horrible shit comes out are a comparatively nice creature. That’s why constant revolution is central to maintaining a decent life for the working classes. Any entrenched elite ends up being scum it doesn’t matter if what the economic system is.
So your family are nazis? Or just work for the CIA? Based on your historical and political ignorance it sounds like both.
Communism is the goal of a classless society of equals. Socialism is the process of attaining communism. “Late stage communism” is like saying “The last leg of the podium.” USSR was never communist. It was socialist and it was killed in it infancy.
The economic struggles of the USSR we not due to their policies they were due to hostility from capitalism and capitulation by revisionists who snaked their way into control.Early stage capitalism and early stage capitalism before all the horrible shit comes out are a comparatively nice creature.
Capitalism was horrific and inhuman from the very start. Read a fucking book. Go read about the process of enclosure in Britain.
It began with the rich expelling people from their ancestral homes where their families had lived since time immemorial. Those now homeless families starved until they got jobs working at factories where the wages barely covered food and shelter where multiple families were crammed in a shack and literally sleeping on top of eachother. A little while later it became a crime to be unemployed with the punishment being slavery. Capitalism started with genocide and the genocide machine only slowed down with the emergence of communism.
The only time a genocide was ever fought against was when the USSR defeated the nazis. The british, french, belgians, spanish, germans all engaged in genocide a few times each without batting an eye under capitalism. Only when the USSR showed up did capitalists concede that genocide was not acceptable.
The history of capitalism is 100% soaked in the blood of innocents. The only thing standing between capitalists and genocide is a strong and internationally active socialist nation. Yes people died under socialism but the majority were not violent deaths they died due to famine caused by natural factors and by petit bourgeoise fuck heads trying to destroy the revolution. The ones who were killed by violence were capitalists sympathisers and genocide lovers and they got what they deserved.
a lot of the people who did the counterrevolution in the soviet bloc were neither nazis or nor cia stooges. they were simply naive idiots who fell for western propaganda. they genuinely believed they’d get western social democracy, which in their understanding was everything communism was, but people were also richer and could travel to the west.
they had no understanding of
- western european social democracy was only possible on imperial superprofits
- western european social democracy was already on the way out in the late 80s
- western european social democracy only happened because porky was terrified of the soviet bloc (the very thing these people were dismantling)
they were also incredibly treatlerized, equating blue jeans with freedom.
they’d grown up on radio free europe and believed it all.
Working for the CIA for free because you are an ignorant idiot is still working for the CIA.
ultimately, yes. the tragedy is they thought they were doing basically the opposite of what they ended up doing
account named ironically I’m guessing
Communism wasn’t good for the Romanovs is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard.
The target is your mind and it seems to have been colonised with imaginary tales.
Please stop using Fascism as short hand for late stage capitalism
I was talking about what they say on social media, sorry I wasn’t more specific? I thought I was…
