• Comtief@lemm.ee
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    Military expenditure is how you avoid war. You think Russia will only attack if Europe is strong? Bizarre… Also, I don’t think it’s the fascists who want expenditure, or at least not the far right parties, they are pro russia.

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      Military expenditure is how you avoid war

      Surely giving more money to the lobbyists of Rheinmetall will make Europe much less likely to go to war!!

      You think Russia will only attack if Europe is strong?

      I think Russia wouldn’t attack the EU if we collectively agreed to maintain good relationships with Russia, as was the case for the past 30 years until EU+US pushed NATO boundaries to Russia and started executing Maidans in the former Russian sphere of influence. That’s not to absolve the Russian government, they’re fascist imperialist pieces of shit, but my point is that so is Europe (e.g. funding genocide in Gaza), and I don’t want another inter-imperialist war like WW1

      Also, I don’t think it’s the fascists who want expenditure

      But you’re willing to increase it even at risk of them getting to the government

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        Oh wow you actually believe what you are saying, this is sad. EU was exceedingly friendly with Russia for the last 30 years, until the war happened. And no, this was not because NATO was pushing boundaries, this is nonsense. Crazy that you actually believe this.

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        I think Russia wouldn’t attack the EU if we collectively agreed to maintain good relationships with Russia

        That’s pretty much France and especially Germany’s playbook for Russian relations for the past few decades though. It seemed to work well until it suddenly didn’t, so we’re gonna have to try the other way

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            Sure, it only attacked its neighbor for committing the cardinal sin of trying to get into the EU and being afraid of Russia’s expansionism.

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              The EU funded genocide in Palestine for committing the cardinal sin of existing though, what’s your point? Russia surely sucks, so does Europe, I don’t wanna fucking die in the front lines and neither do you, so stop warmongering

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        Lol “Europe is fascists pieces of shit”, you heard it here first folks. No, Israel is the fascist pieces of shit and they can take full responsibility.