Yes, real men, real women, real people of any or no gender, and of all ages, wear diapers. That is not something anyone should be shamed or ridiculed for.
I don’t give a shit if trump or his supporters wear them, they are out there causing actual harm to others, and there is plenty to actually criticise them for, why the fuck resort to this ableist bullshit? We rightfully give them shit for judging others by what’s in their pants, yet gleefully judge them for what they wear under theirs?
We’re not the ones resorting to this ableist bullshit, they are. They are the ones wearing diapers and making a mockery out of it. We criticize them for making a mockery out of it simply to emulated someone that makes a mockery out of everything. Do we need to remind everyone of Trump mocking a disabled person on live TV?
Yes, I agree, fuck that noise. But we’re not the ones making that noise.
This. Nowhere is the paradox of tolerance more dangerous than around “ableism” issues; people gotta learn to keep their targets sighted on the actual scum Insidiously using empathy to cross purposes.
The rightfully tolerant protector of the less able does not argue against the Nazi arguing he should be able to punch people without repercussions, they punch the Nazi until he shuts up and go back to equity for everyone else with a clean conscience.
Don’t tolerate the intolerant; don’t shield them with the benefit of the doubt or stop those with the conviction to stand up for those being told to sit either.
Nowhere is the paradox of tolerance more dangerous than around “ableism” issues
JFC, so just say you’re an enthusiastic ableist… You honestly don’t deserve any attention beyond that point, but since I’m here, and you’re full of shit, I’ll give it a quick note in case anyone actually buys in to your bad bad take:
The rightfully tolerant protector of the less able does not argue against the Nazi arguing he should be able to punch people without repercussions, they punch the Nazi until he shuts up and go back to equity for everyone else with a clean conscience.
No where do I even imply anything near “don’t punch a Nazi”, what I’m literally saying is “don’t make fun of people for wearing diapers” and “criticise nazis for their nazi actions, not for what they wear”
According to you we should go around making fun of everyone who wears diapers because you can’t think of a better way to tell them apart from fucking Nazis., and also are unable to think of better things to criticise them for, than wearing said diaper.
You’re a pathetic ableist joke who clearly cares more about their “right” to abuse disabled people than their duty to do anything against nazis. You’re literally playing their game for them - shifting focus away from them being fascist, right in to the ableist jokes you just find too funny to not participate in, to the point of making the exact same kinds of excuses they do.
Congratulations, you’re on the wrong side, no matter what nonsense you tell yourself to feel better.
It was shared for the sole purpose of ridicule. Have you seen some of these fucking comments?? How about instead of getting defensive (and invoking his mockery of disabled people in your defence of… mocking disabled people, who you may not intend to mock, but who you do when you ridicule and stigmatise things they use), just, you know, don’t make fun of medical aids and people who use them, and attack fascists on the grounds of their fucking fascism instead???
Howard Stern took a shit in a diaper on air(or pretended to). I can and will mock him for this. Not because he wore a diaper, but because he wore a diaper when not necessary and made a spectacle of himself.
Donald Trump mocks people for their age even if they’re still able to ride a bike, when he won’t or can’t walk a couple hundred feet with a bunch of other political leaders, while he’s incontinent and his opponent isn’t. I can and will mock him for wearing a diaper, not because it’s ableist, but because he’s a hypocrite and deserves to be called out for it.
I will mock his followers for wearing diapers, again, not because I’m ableist, but because they’re using medical devices when they don’t need to, both making a spectacle of themselves and supporting a hypocrite who makes fun of disabled people. They are deserving of criticism not only for what and who they support, but also how they show that support.
I’ve seen the comments, and yes some are low effort ridicule about wearing a diaper. But the majority are ridiculing these people for making a mockery out of wearing a diaper. That’s the difference. There are going to be elements in every group that punch down, but the Trump fans are made up entirely of that element. That’s why they are making a mockery of wearing a diaper in the first place.
Instead of getting defensive, try taking a step back and look at what people are actually doing rather than focusing on the few bad examples and lecturing all of us about being ableist.
Nominally, I agree. Trump and his die-hard supporters are the exception.
I understand that there will be splash damage. I regret that there is splash damage. But the fact remains that the objective is to sap support from his base, and from people who are (somehow) on the fence about him. That can be done by sharing these unflattering facts about him.
I get that it’s offensive. Again, I regret that the tactic has become necessary; but it HAS become necessary. This is a “pull out all the stops” situation. If it stops that fascist fuck from winning, I’m willing to live with being labeled as “intolerant” because I used his own tactics against him. I’m not reveling in this, or joyously clowning on those less fortunate than me. There is a specific reason why I’m willing to cross that line, and it’s “we might not have small-d democracy anymore if he wins”.
Yes, real men, real women, real people of any or no gender, and of all ages, wear diapers. That is not something anyone should be shamed or ridiculed for.
I don’t give a shit if trump or his supporters wear them, they are out there causing actual harm to others, and there is plenty to actually criticise them for, why the fuck resort to this ableist bullshit? We rightfully give them shit for judging others by what’s in their pants, yet gleefully judge them for what they wear under theirs?
Fuck this noise.
We’re not the ones resorting to this ableist bullshit, they are. They are the ones wearing diapers and making a mockery out of it. We criticize them for making a mockery out of it simply to emulated someone that makes a mockery out of everything. Do we need to remind everyone of Trump mocking a disabled person on live TV?
Yes, I agree, fuck that noise. But we’re not the ones making that noise.
This. Nowhere is the paradox of tolerance more dangerous than around “ableism” issues; people gotta learn to keep their targets sighted on the actual scum Insidiously using empathy to cross purposes.
The rightfully tolerant protector of the less able does not argue against the Nazi arguing he should be able to punch people without repercussions, they punch the Nazi until he shuts up and go back to equity for everyone else with a clean conscience.
Don’t tolerate the intolerant; don’t shield them with the benefit of the doubt or stop those with the conviction to stand up for those being told to sit either.
JFC, so just say you’re an enthusiastic ableist… You honestly don’t deserve any attention beyond that point, but since I’m here, and you’re full of shit, I’ll give it a quick note in case anyone actually buys in to your bad bad take:
No where do I even imply anything near “don’t punch a Nazi”, what I’m literally saying is “don’t make fun of people for wearing diapers” and “criticise nazis for their nazi actions, not for what they wear”
According to you we should go around making fun of everyone who wears diapers because you can’t think of a better way to tell them apart from fucking Nazis., and also are unable to think of better things to criticise them for, than wearing said diaper.
You’re a pathetic ableist joke who clearly cares more about their “right” to abuse disabled people than their duty to do anything against nazis. You’re literally playing their game for them - shifting focus away from them being fascist, right in to the ableist jokes you just find too funny to not participate in, to the point of making the exact same kinds of excuses they do.
Congratulations, you’re on the wrong side, no matter what nonsense you tell yourself to feel better.
It was shared for the sole purpose of ridicule. Have you seen some of these fucking comments?? How about instead of getting defensive (and invoking his mockery of disabled people in your defence of… mocking disabled people, who you may not intend to mock, but who you do when you ridicule and stigmatise things they use), just, you know, don’t make fun of medical aids and people who use them, and attack fascists on the grounds of their fucking fascism instead???
Howard Stern took a shit in a diaper on air(or pretended to). I can and will mock him for this. Not because he wore a diaper, but because he wore a diaper when not necessary and made a spectacle of himself.
Donald Trump mocks people for their age even if they’re still able to ride a bike, when he won’t or can’t walk a couple hundred feet with a bunch of other political leaders, while he’s incontinent and his opponent isn’t. I can and will mock him for wearing a diaper, not because it’s ableist, but because he’s a hypocrite and deserves to be called out for it.
I will mock his followers for wearing diapers, again, not because I’m ableist, but because they’re using medical devices when they don’t need to, both making a spectacle of themselves and supporting a hypocrite who makes fun of disabled people. They are deserving of criticism not only for what and who they support, but also how they show that support.
I’ve seen the comments, and yes some are low effort ridicule about wearing a diaper. But the majority are ridiculing these people for making a mockery out of wearing a diaper. That’s the difference. There are going to be elements in every group that punch down, but the Trump fans are made up entirely of that element. That’s why they are making a mockery of wearing a diaper in the first place.
Instead of getting defensive, try taking a step back and look at what people are actually doing rather than focusing on the few bad examples and lecturing all of us about being ableist.
Nominally, I agree. Trump and his die-hard supporters are the exception.
I understand that there will be splash damage. I regret that there is splash damage. But the fact remains that the objective is to sap support from his base, and from people who are (somehow) on the fence about him. That can be done by sharing these unflattering facts about him.
I get that it’s offensive. Again, I regret that the tactic has become necessary; but it HAS become necessary. This is a “pull out all the stops” situation. If it stops that fascist fuck from winning, I’m willing to live with being labeled as “intolerant” because I used his own tactics against him. I’m not reveling in this, or joyously clowning on those less fortunate than me. There is a specific reason why I’m willing to cross that line, and it’s “we might not have small-d democracy anymore if he wins”.