• A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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    Gee look at that a white South African plutocrat holds the reins and suddenly the architects of Apartheid are “refugees”

    Amazing.

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    Ah, the white refugee grift never fails to amuse. Trump’s clown decree isn’t about “saving” anyone—it’s apartheid cosplay for fascist optics. Let’s resettle the platinum-tier colonizers who still think land theft is a flex. Meanwhile, actual refugees drown in red tape while these chucklefucks get VIP passes.

    But hey, hypocrisy is the point. It’s a loyalty test: how blatantly can we rewrite oppression as victimhood before the bootlickers cheer? Spoiler: they’ll always cheer.

    Elon’s drafting eviction notices for Black South Africans right now. History’s a flat circle, and the fascist playbook’s on loop.

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        I’m saying this as an American who stands firmly opposed to every horrific thing Trump and his fascist goons are doing. However, I can only imagine if I was a politician or business in another country, I’d feel like I’d no longer be able to trust anything the US does or says.

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            The population elected Trump. TWICE. The second time with more votes and winning the popular vote.

            Like it or not, Trump represents the USA in the minds of people around the world for at least a generation.

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              Trump won by a very slim percentage. And that was because most people didn’t bother voting. So no it was not the majority of people.

              I bet I could lambast your country using your same logic. But you’re too afraid to say which one you’re from, because you know it’s true.

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                Even if it’s a slim percentage win, you have to understand that as a European looking in, it is a wildly large number that voted for him. There are only a couple of countries in Europe (and actually only a couple on each continent) that have a population larger than that. For a lot of countries it’s 10x their population.

                For most of us, that looks like an unfathomably massive percentage of idiocy.

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                If Trump got 20% of the republican primary vote, it would already be cause to mock the US.

                He is an infamous dumbass. Deeply ignorant. Like, moron levels of understanding how the world works. Hurricane nuking levels of understanding. Plus immoral, having lost racsims lawsuits in previous century (so not politically motivated), cheating on his wives, cheating on his taxes. But so, so, dumb, and so easily manipulated. Plus he looks funny, but just a unimportant details that’s true for a surprising amount of right wing politicians (milei, Boris Johnson, etc).

                He was the literal counter-example of who should be president. It’s hard to think of someone less suitable. Maybe Kanye West? Snooki?

                Not only he did win the primary, but he won the general election. Twice. After such a disaster with covid. They haunted Clinton for years for 4 dead Americans that weren’t even her fault. Trump caused hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths, tanked the economy, did a bunch of crimes, tried to overthrow the government, announced he would be a dictator and people still voted for him. Mind-blowing.

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                And that was because most people didn’t bother voting. So no it was not the majority of people.

                Add the people who actively voted for Trump and those who couldn’t be bothered to vote against him and you do have the majority of the country who is to blame for the shitshow that is currently wrecking the country and shredding whatever international reputation your country had.

                We know that about 30% voted against this shit (and we thank you for that effort), but thw reality is that you have a fight on your hands if you hope for the rest of the world to look favorably on your country again.

                And, despite 50501 and a small number of outspoken Democrat senators (Bernie, AOC), we don’t see much fighting back yet.

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                because most people didn’t bother voting

                You say this like it doesn’t reflect just as bad as those who did vote for him

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        We understood that the first time. And then you went and you elected him again, post jan6th, post criminal convictions, post covid and post project 2025. (collective you, not you in particular).

        Not this time, this time is on y’all.

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        I understand that (and am American myself) and still don’t think the US as a country should have any credibility. We simply can’t be trusted. The good people among us are not in control.

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          The US political system is simply poorly designed and political brinkmanship appears to always be a winning move. Before Trump McConnell was thoroughly destroying America’s reliability.

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            The founding fathers just could never anticipate a populace or a political party with nearly the degree of cynicism as we see. (Also the founding fathers likely did not intend for us to get stuck in a 250 year old rut, but rather to evolve the system, which has not happened as intended.)

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        Well one of them was elected by a plurality. I was saying this nine years ago, but I think it’s time to admit that yes, it is the US (if not me or those I closely associate with).

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        It isn’t. It was done by all the Americans who voted for him as well as all the Americans who chose not to vote at all.

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      What counts as a refugee in the Trump administration:

      🙍🏿‍♂️nope

      🙍🏾‍♂️nope

      🙍🏽‍♂️nope

      🙍🏼‍♂️yep

      🙍🏻‍♂️yep, unless you’re Asian

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    Err… what about the people in Haiti? Or everywhere else that’s significantly worse than the WHITE part of south africa?

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    This is so disconnected from the Afrikaners that they have largely rejected it.

    They want the land. That’s the point. It’s a multi-generational fight to hold the land.

    It’s a lesson that should be learned about Gaza. It’s not about quality of life, it’s about the 3 most important points of any real estate deal: location, location, location.

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    For fascists, regular displays of hypocrisy are important, because that’s the guarantee that the bad things they obviously plan to do won’t be done to their supporters.