• ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    They underestimated the degree to which the public had been impacted by propaganda and lies. They thought the public understood the threat Trump poses but they did not.

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      2 days ago

      From a millennial perspective, it honestly reminds me of the terror threat level. After 9/11, the DHS would set a daily terror threat level in one of several threatening colors and the 24/7 news channels always had it just chilling in the bottom of their broadcast for years (of course it was always at nearly maximum leading up to invading Iraq, go figure). After a few years, nobody paid any attention to it anymore.

      If the only thing you’ve got to offer is fear, eventually people get numb to that message, even if they should be scared. Imo, it’s hardly surprising that the democrats lost whe coming to the table with conservatism lite, small business tax credits, and “OMG TRUMP IS SCARY WOW” while Merrick Garland slow walked the case against him. I had a feeling we were cooked when Kamala started doing appearances with A-listers; it reminded me a lot of the tone-deaf gilded campaign run by the Hillary team.

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        21 hours ago

        What does Trump offer but fear? The illegals are coming to steal your jobs! Muslim terrorists! Dems are DESTROYING the economy!

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          21 hours ago

          Yeah, but it’s a new fear or a new spin on some old one every other week. Conservative media tries out a new panic pretty regularly to see what gets bites. The democrats have basically been on “Trump is our Hitler” for more or less eight years. At least, that’s what they say with their mouths, though not with their actions. It might have had a little more sticking power of they’d showed that they took at serious as they want us to, but as it stands, that car is pretty much out of gas.

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              21 hours ago

              What do you want from me, exactly? You just can’t keep people afraid of the same thing forever. People stopped paying attention to the terror threat level just three years after 9/11, which the entire country agreed was bad. That’s why their secret sauce is to keep rotating in new panics.

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                51 minutes ago

                I would like it if you acknowledged that Republicans are the root of the problem and not Democrats. Sure, the Dems have a lot of room to improve, but there is no comparison! Republicans are fucking insane!

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                  42 minutes ago

                  The root of what problem, exactly? Yes, republicans are insane, I hate everything about their entire platform and I hate that they’re in power. I want a real left party that will kick these stupid Nazis’ asses, which is why I’m not afraid of being critical of the democrats. Now’s the time. We’ve just been punched in the head and it’s time to decide how to proceed. Do we get our shit together and start swinging for the fences, or do we pout and blame the voters because we really deserved this win and they just didn’t understand that?

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                    17 minutes ago

                    Okay, we agree that Republicans are insane Nazis. Good.

                    What could the Democrats have done that is so bad that insane Nazis sound like the better option? What makes that a rational choice?

                    I don’t think there is one. I don’t think anything the Democrats did mattered because voters weren’t voting based on reality.

                    There is no democracy without an educated populace. We have something worse than that: a miseducated populace. The apathy towards voting and the hatred of the current administration are intentionally engineered by bad actors.

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        22 hours ago

        It’s propaganda that Trump is the anti-genocide option. It’s propaganda that not voting for the Democrats will somehow stop the war. It won’t. It will make it worse.