So, I’ve been playing cyberpunk 2077 and terra Invicta recently and there’s just a couple things that consistently bug me. Now look, I’m not expecting them to be fair to China and the DPRK and Cuba and what not. If I did then I wouldn’t be able to enjoy anything ever in this world. But then there’s other things that just make me believe that Johne Locke rose from his grave to write some code for these games.

For cyberpunk 2077, it’s the police. Apparently, literally 9/10 cops you meet are “the last honest cop in Night city.” After the fifth time hearing this exact line I almost think there’s some inside joke I’m not getting. Sure youre told the ncpd is corrupt sometimes (maybe), and in their little “safe and sound” show, the ncpd says cops may ask for bribes and that you should give them bribes. But like, that’s never shown. The cops you do see are

Detective who wants to get to the bottom of hard cases the brass doesn’t want solved, and to save his nephew from a serial killer

Two police officers who are definitely good and who just want to help their friend Barry, who’s sad his turtle died and who is angry at the brass for covering things up

Cop who sacrifices his life in order to steal life saving medical equipment from arasaka, who only procures stolen cars for the corrupt brass

Cop who does what the brass tells him to do in order to protect himself and his daughter

[Edit was wrong on this one, didnt know there were different choices for this mission and that hes actually not a good cop. My bad.] Detective who hires you to steal bd scrolls so he doesn’t have to go through the trouble of getting warrants

cop who beats you for stealing a car from a corpo, but disobeys orders from said corpo and spares you from death

You get the point. It’s classic COD levels of writing for these guys. “All the problems are caused by the corrupt management and bureaucracy all the cops are really good guys at heart.” Have you ever met cops? Like sure, I’m not saying literally 100% of them are sociopathic serial killers(although i think you have to be a little fucked in the head to do what they do), but the police department doesn’t attract the type of people who want to help the community. It’s literally almost as bad (or hell, I’d say maybe worse in some respects) than literal Dick Wolfe tier cop shows. And it doesn’t help that the game is constantly telling you “man the ncpd are some bad guys. The ncpd are just another gang. The ncpd work with Tyger claws” etc. I wouldn’t be as critical if my ears weren’t hearing one thing and my eyes were seeing another. (Note:To be…too fair, there are essentially corpo cops who do actually get the treatment they deserve. People like Reed and Takemura aren’t bad people on a personal level, but they’re beholden to the interests of their capitalists and so you end up at odds with them because they do their dirty work. I don’t think theres enough questioning of Reeds “for muh country” shit, but at the very least he’s not given a free pass like the ncpd is. Same with Takemura, although it’s never really shown how bad he can be really, opposed to just not liking Yorinobu.)

Terra Invicta is comparably smaller, but I hate their democracy vs totalitarianism crap. Looking around at the starting scores it’s literally like those freedom institute maps.

Cuba, with direct democracy, free elections, accountable representatives, etc.

Grrr totalitarian nightmare

Thailand, the US, etc.

Aww, flawed democracies are still democracies

But then you look some more and it just has you asking if these people researched 5 minutes of political science before making some decisions. Like, really, south korea and Japan are “full democracies.” One is a corrupt hellhole ran by megacorps who can raid and persecute anyone deemed helping North korea, and the other literally has a system to make getting rid of their one party dominance near impossible. At least give them the flawed democracy tag if it’s so hard to understand anything else.

It’s like, I really do enjoy playing both of these games but those two things are just constantly in the back of my mind saying “these people aren’t as intelligent as you think”

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    I love idle games and especially those that are themed around civilizations. I really wish there was one that took a proper Marxist approach to progression though because all of them are nonsensical. Things like evolve idle (very reditty) or you found a hole in the ground. Driven by research mainly which is explained as people suddenly having basic af ideas nobody had before them. I might just make it myself (I will never make it lmao)

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        bit obsessed with scrolling through this game’s one star reviews. dev is a little bit based

        fellas, is it propaganda to make a game you’re interested in?

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        I think I’ve tried it before. I should give it another go. From what I remember it was pretty simple, more idle than incremental.

        edit: ah yeah I probably stopped playing because of all the ads :/

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      it’s not an idle or civ-style game, more of a city sim, but I’ve heard some buzz around Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic. Would like to play that at some point myself

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        It’s an amazing game, but you’ll need to educate yourself on youtube for a few hours, to understand how the game works. There’s barely any explanation for its deep mechanics, in-game.

        However, it makes 2 anticommunist sins in my eyes. It counts failure as people “escaping” your republic. And it requires you to use Secret Police to follow people around so they don’t defect.

        Still it’s the best city building game I’ve ever played.

        On another note, Endzone is a very good colony sim, with simpler mechanics than Workers & Resources, and with some collectivist vibes.

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          However, it makes 2 anticommunist sins in my eyes. It counts failure as people “escaping” your republic. And it requires you to use Secret Police to follow people around so they don’t defect.

          From the videos I’ve seen from this game it seems like it at least needs a mod to change some of the wording, like “escape” to “emigrated” and the opposite as well, with people comming from capitalist countries being counted as escaping capitalism.