I’m Jewish and have been told very angrily that I killed Jesus more than once. It’s fun.

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    I grew up in one church that loved to talk about “the synagogues of satan” and other “fun” stuff like that, so I don’t think anything like that is uncommon (particularly in Baptist circles, but probably also outside of it). Some of the kids I grew up with would say “that’s Jewish” for something uncool. Pretty sure there parents were full-on anti-Semitic white supremacists. This wasn’t even in the south. Glad to be out of that removed.

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      I grew up in Indiana, not the south and yep, that’s how it was in Indiana too. I was just on the receiving end.

      Although admittedly “that’s gay” was more common for something uncool, whereas if someone was trying to get you to lower a price on a sale, they were trying to “Jew you down.” Which is something I heard at a garage sale several times, so that was nice.

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        Although admittedly “that’s gay” was more common for something uncool, whereas if someone was trying to get you to lower a price on a sale, they were trying to “Jew you down.” Which is something I heard at a garage sale several times, so that was nice.

        Holy shit, really? I always thought I lived in a shitty area for racism, but “Jew you down” was something that would get even someone’s racist old grandfather horrified looks here.

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            Southern Ontario checking in. We did that too. ‘Gyped’ and ‘indian giver’ were also things.
            Although, I had an indigenous friend one summer who quickly became popular because he was very funny. He used to use slurs against all of the white kids all of the time. It was the most effective anti racist tactic I’ve ever witnessed. None of us were comfortable using a lot of the slurs that were baked into our culture, unless it was with our friend and a smile.

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              To my shame, I also did ‘Gyped’ and ‘Indian giver.’ Now I don’t even use such words in a way that isn’t intended to be disparaging. I say ‘Roma’ and ‘indigenous American’ (or Canadian in your country’s case).

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    To MTG: you’re white and white people owned slaves, so you’re directly responsible for slavery.

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      I’d believe it for MTG. She certainly seems the type to want to return to “the old ways”.

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    If we assume Jesus was historically real - let me be clear that I don’t really care who was responsible for his death 2000 years ago. (which Christians believe was required for their own salvation anyhow).

    I have never understood why anyone would hold modern Jews (or any Jews at all that weren’t present and involved) responsible for Jesus’ death.

    Having said that, I have grown up believing it was more or less true that yes the Jews did kill Jesus. (But again, so what?)

    This post spurred me to do some duck duck going. I found these two articles interesting. At least I can see the basis for it now. For anyone else coming at this with a similar understanding:

    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/who-killed-jesus/

    https://www.npr.org/2011/03/04/134264425/Pope-Jews-Are-Not-Responsible-For-Killing-Jesus

    I will say that the first article does a pretty good job of setting up the case for why people believe that. (Unlike the second which kinda surprisingly acts like no one should ever have thought that in the first place.)

    Again, even if every person involved in Jesus’ death had been Jewish, and even if Jesus were the actual earthly incarnation of God as his son, I have never seen any basis to lay this at the feet of modern Jews. But now I know more about it than I did.

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      Plus, it was the Romans that actually executed him.

      Why don’t these people hate Italians?

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    It is perpetually disappointing the extent to which so many people who claim to be Christians fail to understand even the CliffsNotes version of the Gospel.

    Jesus’ arrest was probably bound to happen sooner or later though. As noted Biblical scholar Andrew Zaltzman has often pointed out, Pontius Pilate was a law and order administrator, and Jesus was absolutely guilty under the law at the time.