That’s fair. One formative experience i had was seeing my childhood church have many parishioners reject our priest. He was pretty radical for a catholic priest having gone on record asking his bishop to perform two separate lesbian weddings (his sister and neice), when I came out of the closet he offered to talk to my ex father about how there’s a commandment about loving family but none about gender, and he routinely called for his parishioners to think and actually strive to be better people. They did not like that. They also really didn’t like when he kept telling the teenagers that he’d rather we think about our beliefs and convert away than to just stay catholic because we were raised that way.
I’ve seen US Catholics reject one the popes teaching because he went against Trump on a certain subject. If the US goes on like this I could see a Trump church.
On one hand I’ve seen catholics reject the poor on a lot of topics, really basically all of them. But yeah the American Civil religion seems to be developing a strong cult of Trump. What concerns me is the bishops joining that cult.
It’s also weird because I’m so used to American fascists being super fucking protestant, and these ones kinda still are, they’re just like the bastard children of Calvinism and Franco era Spanish catholicism.
The protestant denominations in the populist movements really fundamentally hate Catholics and consider them unsaved pagans. That group is being used and is going to be cut out soon enough.
That’s fair. One formative experience i had was seeing my childhood church have many parishioners reject our priest. He was pretty radical for a catholic priest having gone on record asking his bishop to perform two separate lesbian weddings (his sister and neice), when I came out of the closet he offered to talk to my ex father about how there’s a commandment about loving family but none about gender, and he routinely called for his parishioners to think and actually strive to be better people. They did not like that. They also really didn’t like when he kept telling the teenagers that he’d rather we think about our beliefs and convert away than to just stay catholic because we were raised that way.
I’ve seen US Catholics reject one the popes teaching because he went against Trump on a certain subject. If the US goes on like this I could see a Trump church.
On one hand I’ve seen catholics reject the poor on a lot of topics, really basically all of them. But yeah the American Civil religion seems to be developing a strong cult of Trump. What concerns me is the bishops joining that cult.
It’s also weird because I’m so used to American fascists being super fucking protestant, and these ones kinda still are, they’re just like the bastard children of Calvinism and Franco era Spanish catholicism.
The protestant denominations in the populist movements really fundamentally hate Catholics and consider them unsaved pagans. That group is being used and is going to be cut out soon enough.