and no one irl even has the decency to agree with me because it’s so fucking drilled into the culture that these fucking BuNsInNesSes have a Right to do this because it’s a bSUsniEss. like oh yeah they have an office building so they definitely get to analyze my piss because they say they want to. sick fucking freaks.

preaching to the choir a bit on lemmy (or i would hope so at least) but still

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    I run a manufacturing business; you oversimplify.

    Quite coincidentally my HR person came to me just an hour ago and told me that two people have complained of a coworker smoking on breaks and at lunch and being high on the job.

    He drives a heavy forklift. Am I to ignore the situation? If I do I expose my employees to danger and my small business to lawsuits.

    How are the employees that reported it supposed to react if I say “Whatever, that’s his business.”

    To a large extent businesses have their hands tied by the rules and laws of society.

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    Thanks Reagan. Fun fact, in the mid 80’s Reagan’s administration did a big study to show how effective drug testing in the workplace was, and how much it raised productivity. When they got the results back, it found productivity had dropped, and workplace safety hadn’t changed. The results said the program was a complete failure. They tried to bury the report and not release it. Rolling Stone magazine sued the government to get a copy, since it was made with public money, and won. They were the only media outlet to publish the results.

  • The main thing is, as long as you don’t show up to work blitzed I don’t see how anyone should give a shit. Whatever you do at home is your business, provided you leave it at home.

    That’s the policy at my business. IDGAF if you spend all of your off hours at the bottom of a bottle or on top of cloud nine, just don’t bring it to work.

    Additional problems include: If there is a workplace accident and someone gets injured, both OSHA and insurance companies immediately come knocking to try to do drug tests on everyone involved purely as an attempt to shift blame and deny claims. We don’t have any heavy equipment here or anything so I’m not too worried about that, but there are businesses in America that would get fucked in a situation like that so they’re kind of forced to enact drug bans even if management doesn’t want to on a personal level.

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    It’s especially frustrating as someone who needs cannabis for severe anxiety, because it’s anxiety inducing in itself to have to hide it and that pretty much cancels out the benefits for me- it’s something we absolutely need to destigmatize at work especially.

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      Please try therapy. Anxiety is curable with therapy, whereas meds or cannabis are temporary symptom relief, but the symptoms will always come back as soon as you’re sober.

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        Lmfao. Anxiety is curable with therapy is not a rule. Some anxiety is curable with therapy, but not all of it.

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        And just like that, the entire American medical system, as well as kittnpunk’s mental health, began to heal!

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          Psychotherapy is the single most evidence-based treatment for anxiety, the literature stands up across the world. Not sure why you’re bringing the American medical system into this, but while we’re on the topic, our medical system absolutely encourages people to seek solutions in substances. Kittnpunk is saying they’re so anxious that they cannot function without being high. Psychotherapy can 100% help them decrease their reliance on cannabis to feel less anxious