• Justin@lemmy.jlh.name
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    16 days ago

    Of course, after Trump in the white house, it’s kinda irrelevant.

    Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.
    That word is “Nazi.” Nobody cares about their motives anymore.
    They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?

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      16 days ago

      Sure, let’s just casually label half the fucking country as Nazis. That definitely worked last time.

      Prime fucking example of exactly what their first comment was talking about.

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        16 days ago

        It’s not a nice way to say it, but it is important to distinguish conservatism from the current situation where you have conservatives supporting nazis, planning concentration camps, and planning to pull a Hong Kong-style silencing of the opposition.

        It is important to tell conservatives that the guy they voted for has gone off the deep end. For diplomatic reasons, I would probably avoid emotional words and say something along the lines of “we’re concerned that Trump plans to illegally block the democratic party from elections and trans people and immigrants may have to flee the country in the face of workplace discrimination or outright persecution and violence. His politicization of the military could lead to another coup attempt.”

        But that’s just part of how you defuse fascism, those are the words you use with both Putin supporters and Trump supporters.

        There is no place on earth and no time in history where “guh, inflation” is a reasonable excuse to vote for a nazi.