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  • Allowing people to spout whatever nonsense and cause harm to others is reckless at best, ignorant and insane at worst. I’m old but not old enough to have dementia.

    What words has he said that are cuasing harm. Because if it isnt calling for actionable violence then it isnt causing harm.

    The argument of free speech so hollow, I’ve seen it used by right-wingers as a rallying cry

    I didnt realise free speach was a right wing idea. I though free speach was a basic liberty of free independent people.

    when in reality free speech is free yes but simutaneously it does not mean free of consequences.

    Free to say as he pleases and get downvoted, judged, resonded to negatively.

    He’s in violation of our TOS and probably several others

    What tos violations has he made? Im gonna assume innocent until proven guilty.



  • Sure, I’ll take the bait. It’s not at all an issue of his beliefs…Nothing he had to say was ever the issue.

    Ok so what is the issue cos op hasnt seemed to have addressed it.

    If every time someone gets on the bus, they sit down next to random other passengers and start pestering them about Jesus, loudly and without fail, no matter how much the person clearly doesn’t want it, and then when multiple people tell them to stop, they start crying about religious discrimination, yell at the whole bus, say they won’t be silenced, show up the next day with a whole backpack full of pamphlets about the first amendment, concoct elaborate disguises to be able to sneak back on the bus once one bus driver finally has had enough and bans them, all the while setting up this incredibly loud consistent whining sound about how they’re being persecuted because of their Christianity, it was never about the Christianity.

    I like ur metaphor it presents a very visceral image of a particular behaviour. Ur forgetting just 1 things lemmy has that a bus doesnt a magic button to make them disapear (the block button). Also nothing wrong with talking to anyone u want about anything u want thats how free speach works.

    You can be Christian on the bus. You can also be Jewish or Muslim. You can wear a headscarf, you can talk to your friends about Jesus, together on the bus. Likewise, you can be anti-Biden, or pro-Biden, or pro-socialist, or whatever you want to be, on Lemmy.

    U can also talk to anyone else u please about anything on this list or not on this list, it doesnt havr to be your friends.

    When you become so incredibly obnoxious about your style of interaction that the entire community has agreed that you’re causing a problem,

    Free speach requires that u allow people to be obnoxious, as long as ur not calling for actionable violence i say let em speak.

    and then instead of being open to feedback and continuing to say what you think, but in a fashion that is productive and respectful of everyone else, you instead double down and say you won’t be silenced

    Why should anyone be forced to change how they choose to express their beliefs. What if everyone in a neighbourhood decided that rainbow flags where obnoxious, that does not grant them the right to deny the gays there right to express their beliefs however the fuck they want. (So long as its not violent or callibg for actionable violence etc etc).

    and send threatening DMs to your critics

    If this is true which it quite probably could be then op should have started with this. Ill be in full support of instance bans if i can be shown verifyable proof this is true.

    and start making a whole bunch of new accounts when you are banned from multiple places, it is time for you to go.

    Thats how an open platform works good luck stopping it. Ie the technology of Activpub has made the capability to deny any individual their free speach impossible.

    Because you had your opportunity to tone it down and integrate within the social contract that makes the place function, and you explicitly and proudly chose not to.

    I hate the concept of the social contract. I was forced to sign it under duress (i didnt concent to being born etc etc). The politicians, the billionares, the dictators of the world, the thieves stealing food to survive, etc etc etc they have not integrated within the social contract. If there is no enforcement then why follow the rules?

    I believe in a far simpler system that perfectly describes every system far better than the social contract. Darwinian evolution. Given that i would say its pretty arrogant to assert that following the social contract 100% of the time is always the most advantagious.