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  • Going to almost certainly be less than 1. Moving further up the food chain results in energy losses. Those fish are going to use energy for their own body and such

    For sure, which is why I said “another food source would be needed.” I had in mind something like the wild-caught fish being processed into something useful as part of a more efficient food chain, e.g. combined with efficiently-farmed plant material.

    Moreover there’s high mortality rates inside of fish farms for fish themselves.

    I don’t have any context on the other pros and cons of fish farming, so definitely not arguing whether they’re a net positive or not.





  • We aren’t trying to establish that neurons are conscious. The thought experiment presupposes that there is a consciousness, something capable of understanding, in the room. But there is no understanding because of the circumstances of the room. This demonstrates that the appearance of understanding cannot confirm the presence of understanding. The thought experiment can’t be formulated without a prior concept of what it means for a human consciousness to understand something, so I’m not sure it makes sense to say a human mind “is a Chinese room.” Anyway, the fact that a human mind can understand anything is established by completely different lines of thought.




  • This fails to engage with the thought experiment. The question isn’t if “the room is fluent in Chinese.” It is whether the machine learning model is actually comparable to the person in the room, executing program instructions to turn input into output without ever understanding anything about the input or output.




  • Yup, you’ll notice the only thing distinguishing C from R^(2) is that multiplication. That one definition has extremely broad implications.

    For fun, another definition is in terms of 2x2 matrices with real entries. The identity matrix

    1 0
    0 1
    

    is identified with the real number 1, and the matrix

    0 1
    -1 0
    

    is identified with i. Given this setup, the normal definitions of matrix addition and multiplication define the complex numbers.