Safest time ever bro. The police just need another fuckbillion dollars and harriers and then crime disappear, totes.

Order the meat without salt too. They all season on the flattop so it’ll force them to make fresh.

When I had that commute I would buy boxes of clifbars and power bars that permanently populated my glovebox. Trail mix in Adams peanut butter jars. Flavored oatmeal with raisins in old jam jars, just grab a cup of boiling water on your way out and pour it in. See also, instant mash potatoes, stuffing, ramen (adding boiling water to ramen and just waiting for it to be ready is the only way I like it now). That was the best idea I ever had before a multi day road trip, please use it.

If anyone has ideas to add to that, I’m all ears. Or any other food-from-home non-shopping ideas (like eating potato salad with Tims salt and vinegar chips, bombdotcom)

She’s been a superstar a whole lot longer than this past year.

She became a billionaire in the past year. You know how hard that is to do as an artist? She’s been at this a minute. Like 2 decades of superstar minutes.

No I’m saying that crime exists, period. With or without government, it doesn’t matter, we are born with an internal sense of justice. We know if we’ve been wronged even before we can walk or talk.

Somebody has to deal with it. You can pick a side politically or eschew it completely favoring anarchy, that’s your decision, but SOMEBODY HAS TO DEAL WITH IT.

Here’s a better question, let’s say the government falls tomorrow. America’s out of money, cops, military, Congress, everyone’s disbanded.

Do you think there’s gonna be less killing then?

I agree with you that government can in fact create crime, and I don’t mean by just passing legislation, but actual unethical actions - and that’s not to go into war crimes or crimes against humanity.

Fuck i contend the existence of poverty is a crime against humanity.

So here we are at this question. This or that. We can be critical of government for its punishment focused approach to crime, rightfully so, but absent government, does crime disappear? would theft, rape or murder decrease or increase?

I say they’d increase, at least for the initial decade. We’re a long way away from subsistence farming, and not necessarily in a good way. In a prolonged grid down environment it’s expected 90% perish in the first year. How far would you go to get your family medicine? Cuz if my kid needs meds and the only way I can get them is through other people, well, that’s just what I gotta do then. It’s not even a decision.

I feel like you understand what I’m saying and are just being facetious.

Putting all the moral positions aside, at the end of the day, we are stuck in this situation. That’s the reality and it has to be dealt with, like it or not.

I agree. But we are still left with the here and now and a situation that we didn’t ask to be in, that we (as a whole) are forced into.

Believe me, I think the first job of government, everyday, is to pass objective rationalization for their continued existence. I am beyond critical as a default. Criticism of authority is fundamental to any and all rights of free people. Corruption of those that make up the system should be punished at exponential rates. A police officer commiting a crime should be handled like a criminal, not an officer. Should steps be taken to mitigate and help the masses, based off medical expert advice? Absolutely, whole-heartedly.

I understand the arguments against capital punishment and at my core i agree, but in the end we still have this shit show we didn’t want to be in to deal with. In an analogy, I don’t think blaming the garbage collectors will make people produce less garbage. Let’s do the things to fix it, across the board, but that doesn’t mean leaving the obvious garbage out to rot and fester in the street.

For some, sure.

I’m all for the Scandinavian model, I just don’t think the John Wayne Gacys of the world are reformable. I think some people are just not meant to live in the group. If ostracization was still a thing, then let’s do that, as if back in the day surviving the wild wasn’t effectively a death sentence. You wanna drop these people on an uninhabited Alaskan island? Sure. I’m all for it

Life is not black and white. You can deal in absolutes all you want, that just leaves the rest of us here to make the hard decisions, since your abdication.

Jailing people for life is also inhumane, solitary is torture that can lead to permanent damage. But what alternatives are left with? Society didn’t ask these people to steal, attack, rape or murder. Some people just choose it. So we have to separate them from the rest of us, for the common good.

Fwiw, I don’t favor capital punishment unless guilt is obvious for all to see - beyond a doubt. But if we have to do it, and situationally It’s appropriate (some will say it never is), we should do it as humanely as possible. Not that they necessarily deserve that, but ultimately it’s a reflection of us.

This is all first world problems btw. If the facade falls, we’ll all see people put down with absolute disregard. We have survivors alive today from past atrocity, we aren’t even removed in the slightest. Look up the Khmer Rouge and the killing fields, I had a coworker who escaped after watching his brother chopped apart and his mother gunned down.

Purity in your moralism is a luxury most can’t afford, unfortunately.

Dude was unconscious almost immediately. His brain was dead but the body takes longer to go. The violent spasms was the unconscious and uninhabited body using the last of its energy, mechanically.

This has been so dramatized it’s disgusting. The execution? Humane. The media around it? Must clearly want more suffering.

Yea, all it took was not paying your taxes.

Don’t pay your share, no protection of the law, seems pretty simple.

I wish it were an option nowadays, honestly. I’d make that bet in a heartbeat. Statistically id be so much safer I could make a case for my life insurance rates to drop. Statistically I am at my highest chance of death in the presence of a police officer, whether they’re in the area because of me or not, so even as a bystander. If I could cut that cord, it’s a no brainer. Also my car is getting 20 extra batteries dropped in it wired up in series for parking and pumping 240vdc to every metal part of the chassis. And my property will have a dozen armed sentry’s that will fire on anything that moves unless you got the optics for it to sense friendly, which I’ll just have implanted inconspicuously into a tattoo.