I don’t mean to make light of 3 people being in critical condition but… It’s simply too fitting, I’m afraid.

Immutable distros will likely become the standard in the future, but at the moment I think they’re a poor choice for newbies since there’s very little documentation around them, very few people who can help if something goes wrong, and often can introduce their own problems due to flatpak permissions that require their own specialized knowledge that a newbie won’t have.

When I tried bazzite, I encountered an issue that someone else had reported on the forums months ago, which had never received a response due to how stretched thin the UBlue team are.

Mint on the other hand works fine 99% of the time, and has heaps of help resources available for it. It also strongly suggests setting up a snapshot of your system that you can rollback to if anything ever messes up, which pretty much puts it on par with bazzite in that department.

Older desktops can have a somewhat hefty idle power draw due to the overall system consumption contributing more than expected, such as the southbridge. According to this old review of the i7-2600k, the system idles at 74w, which at $0.12 per KWh, would cost you roughly $77 per year. Though you might want to confirm that with a Kill-a-watt meter if you can (libraries sometimes lend them out), since I’m pretty sure that total system power chart includes a discrete GPU, so the real number for a GPU-less system is probably around 40 or 50w at idle.

If that is accurate, you could potentially replace your i7-2600 with a used Dell Wyse 5070 thin client from ebay for about $40 (in the US), and that idles at 5w, which would only cost you $5 a year at the same rate.

Older thin clients and laptops tend to have much better idle power draws compared to desktops. For other people reading this, if you’re using a desktop for a low-power use case, it’s probably worth finding out what its idle power consumption is and doing the calculation to determine if it’d be worth replacing it with a more efficient used thin-client or office mini-pc.

If you do try Linux, I highly highly recommend Linux Mint, since it’s the most newbie friendly.

If you play the OG deus ex, I highly recommend modding it with the revision overhaul, or GMDX. It’s very clunky without one.

If you like stealth games, I’d recommend the first two thief games (with fan patches to run well on modern systems).

f you don’t have artificial fertilizers, tractors, refrigerators etc etc, there is no way people can be fed even if they are everything that nature created.

David R. Montgomery puts forward some interesting evidence that the world could be fed without industrial farming, and there are promising new methods of creating artificial fertilizer using renewable energy instead of the fossil fuel using habor-bosch method.

Cities are giant factories that require the constant cycling of goods (food, water and other materials) using a transportation grid and they also require constant energy inputs to remove waste materials.

Cities use far less energy and materials than less dense suburbs or rural living, which require moving materials and energy further than cities to dwellings that are far less energy efficient. I get the feeling you didn’t actually look at the links I provided regarding how with the right planning, cities could be made self-sufficient and the most sustainable way of living, as you continue to suggest that they cannot be, even though the math in those videos indicate the opposite.

so your idea about edencity and public transportation is like you almost see how unsustainable cities are, and why.

I never said cities as they exist today are desirable or sustainable, nor was that the inquiry you made to me. You asked what existing technologies we had to live sustainably. I think I made a solid case that we do have the existing ideas and technology to do so, but they are simply not implemented for reasons unrelated to their actual technical viability.

on a planet where we cannot feed, build houses and build transport for everyone

And this is a completely artificial social problem, not a technical one, which is what I’ve been mentioning in each response.

Capitalism is ultimately responsible for a tremendous amount of that artificial scarcity of food, housing, and transport, as profit incentives cause powerful corporations to suppress or eliminate solutions that would jeopardize that profit. Farmers during the depression destroyed food while the hungry watched to protect the market, affordable housing isn’t created because it isn’t as profitable as expensive housing, rent caps aren’t implemented because real estate monopolies and landlords lobby politicians to ensure their profits continue to rise, public transport was gutted by monopolists in the oil, car, and tire industry for their continued profit.

As long as capitalism rules us, we will struggle to implement the tools that could save millions of people from dying, all for the benefit of a few psychopaths. I strongly believe we will continue on the path of destruction unless there is a nearly global rejection of capitalism as the main form of societal structure. I don’t know for sure if we will eventually cast it off and survive, but I’m sure as hell going to try to slow down the amount of emissions we spew out in the hopes it gives us a sliver more time for that to potentially happen.

Whether or not you believe it’s possible for humanity to actually do that depends entirely on how cynical your worldview is. In practical terms, a fully cynical view only guarantees a fail-state, which doesn’t seem like a useful mindset to have. So I will continue to do as much as I am realistically able to help the possibility of resisting capitalism, as it’s our only real way out, and I’ll be happier with myself that I tried, even if we fail.

I’m aware, but I was addressing that one point at the end of their post about us not having sustainable technology, which I consider distinct from tech that sequesters existing emissions. As in, had we structured our societies with that other tech, it would’ve been fairly sustainable.

For sequestering carbon, I’d read a bit about growing mass amounts of some sort of seaweed or grass in shallow areas being somewhat promising, though ultimately I think we’re locked in for some extreme change regardless. My recommendations of sustainable tech would only limit the ceiling we reach in the future.

• Solar and Wind power are cheap and are infinitely scalable on both small and large scales.
• Public transport massively reduces energy requirements for transportation, and scales from bullet trains to light rail. Bike paths combined with ebikes can be used for smaller scales.
• Vegan diets massively reduce emissions and energy requirements to produce calories for a population
• Iron-air batteries are right now viable as an alternative to fossil fuel powered container ships. They are viable at large scales. For small scale between short distances, sailboats are still quite viable.
• High density urban planning done by the Edenicity plan reduces suburban sprawl and massively reduces energy consumption by allowing for an urban area to be energy and food self sufficient. This concept scales to both small villages or large cities.

The tech is there. The only thing stopping us is a lack of political will due to capitalism resulting in oligarchs who have captured the political system, and a lack of public awareness of alternative ways of life due to poor education and propaganda.

A properly informed public that understands the extreme dangers of climate change, oligarchic capitalism, and the viability of changing things with collective power would allow us to use these existing technologies and prevent the devastation we’re headed toward.

Humanity does not have the technology or capability to be sustainable

We absolutely have the technology, it’s just being blocked from being implemented on emergency timescales by soulless oil and gas corpo suits that have almost de-facto control of governments in most countries.

Yes we can. Doomerism only guarantees our failure. Collective action still matters, it still has an effect.

Capitalism will bring us to ruin if allowed to continue, and we will indeed need to have a reckoning with it, or perish. If you want that reckoning to be tried, then join in your local communities, organize, unionize your job, help your friends and family unionize theirs, and prepare together.

At least then we’ll have a chance.

This is an anarchist instance, we’re on the same page. Ending capitalism is the only real way out of all of this.

But right now, at this very moment, things are not doomed. They could be doomed in the future, but that isn’t written yet. So yes, fight like hell, but realize that a lot of people who read comments like “We’re fucked. It’s over”, or read the OP’s article, will come away thinking we’ve already reached a human extinction level event, which we absolutely have not yet, and can still influence.

It’s important to frame it that we can still make a difference, otherwise people will simply give up and not worry about trying to fix things since they believe it’s all fucked and pointless, which can be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Eventually there will be a heat death of the universe, so that technically makes all existence ‘meaningless’ if you consider an ending to make everything before it meaningless.

Before then though, there will be a lot of existing going on for living beings, who fill their lives with meaning and joy and connection while they remain alive, and we’d rather like it if our environment wasn’t a complete garbage fire while doing so.

Nothing has changed. Nothing.

But it has.

Alternative energy is cheaper and more viable than anyone 40 years ago could’ve ever thought possible. China is building out insane amounts of solar energy, and India is starting to as well. The EU is reducing emissions, if slowly.

Yes, the US going hard right and abandoning climate goals is a shitshow, but they’re not the entire world. Good things are still happening.

Based on this interview with Douglas Rushkoff, they can’t even fathom treating their security guards well to prevent them from revolting in the bunker.

Doomerism isn’t the answer. You may not have kids, but other people still will, and they’ll have to live through the world we leave them. Instead of giving up and saying fuck it, use your anger, hope, love, whatever you need to fuel you, and do what you can. Plant trees to create shade you will not be under, find ways to minimize your energy usage, get to know your community, talk to them, prepare together.

It’s far more fulfilling than waiting out your death in despair, so even if you think it’s all useless, you’ll have a much better time of it either way.

That is not a position backed by our current climate science knowledge. We do have a certain amount of climate change baked in right now, absolutely. And it will remain like that for quite a long time, and yes, if we went net-zero, it will stay that way for many decades, maybe even a century or two.

But we can influence how bad that period is, and if it will ever level off (for future generations, not in our lifetime).

If we throw up our hands and do nothing, we are guaranteeing our doom as a species. If we continue to fight, we can ease the pain and horror we and our future generations will have to go through, survive as species, and far in the future, bring the climate back to what it was pre-industial revolution.

I understand why he’s despairing and frustrated after so many years of effort, but I hope his framing doesn’t quell people’s efforts. It’s definitely too late to stop climate change from happening, but we can still effect how bad it gets, so please don’t give up.

Muntedcrocodile: “I believe in the right to spread hatred as long as it’s not calling for violence.”

Lemmy: “Um, okay. Let’s give that a try. We hate hateful right wing views, and call people with those views total assholes.”

muntedcrocodile: “Wait, not like that! You should tolerate us so there’s a diversity of views!”

Ironic.

And quick reminder that the IWW will help anyone (including you, dear reader) unionize their job, no matter what it is, and even if you can only get one or two others on board with you!

I’d recommend checking out BlackFlag Civilian’s videos. He’s a leftist who covers relevant topics, including how to select ammo, how to set up comms on a budget, and more.

I’d also suggest TacticoolGirlfriend (who has a great beginner series) and InRangeTV’s videos.