Kid named @[email protected]:

Get deeply unserious dairysuckers outta my fuckin’ movement. Vegetarianism delenda est.

The tone-policing is entirely disingenuous. They say they want vegans to be less “rude” and “aggressive,” but actually, they just want vegans to not have a spine.

You could unapologetically advocate for animal liberation and veganism in the most chill way imaginable, and they still would accuse you of being “forceful” and “pushy.” This is just a thought-terminating cliché they abuse the shit out of because they think it compensates for the guilt that they have knowing that carnism is unethical.

If a vegan can calmly say, “You should stop supporting animal exploitation,” and that still gets you riled up, that shit is definitely coming from within.

Supporting animal exploitation is fundamentally wrong, even if you do it under certain “humane conditions.” Welfarism is irrelevant to veganism, and I’m not trying to entertain the harmful notion that exploiting animals in a way that’s “better than factory farming” justifies it.

Animals are individuals with their own interests, and they do not consent to being commodities, slaves, and resources for human beings. Every single culture in history has been carnistic, and carnism is inherently wrong. Trying to damage control this with comparative ethics about how some Indigenous practices involve exploiting animals more humanely completely misunderstands the vegan cause. Veganism is not necessarily about the environment either, so certain forms of animal exploitation being less damaging for the environment does not necessarily make them more ethical either.

Also, either you know nothing about veganism or you’re disingenuously bringing up the no-brainer fact that “just having a vegan diet doesn’t address the bigger picture of more total animal liberation” as a concern trolling tactic that you hope stating will somehow makes individuals being carnists more acceptable.

No shit. Veganism is not presented as the endgoal. To compare it to another justice issue like racism, simply refraining from supporting animal exploitation in your day-to-day life isn’t tantamount to doing a grand revolutionary act that tears down all white supremacist power structures. It’s the equivalent of simply abstaining from saying slurs.

You shouldn’t have treaded at all. If you’re going to say stuff that is undeniably not “100% pro-vegan,” you either do not know what veganism is about or you’re doing that as a form of “no offense but” kind of communication in hoping that it’ll make what you’re saying less at odds with this community.

Sorry, but not sorry, I’m not accepting your very misinformed attempts at trying to justify carnism here.

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She admitted to being a college student and that her parents pay for all of her expenses to go to school. The fact that she is a cracKKKer LARPing as a leftist and pretending to oppose oppression is the cherry on top. Very much ironic for her to literally misgender me just to try to paint me as some kind of privileged identity relative to her. It shows how out-of-touch whites and cissies can be with what trans people of color typically endure.

Speaking from experience, oat milk is your best bet for that task, so you’re already headed in the right direction.

I’m gonna leave you with a simple bit of information here, and I hope this helps to give you an idea:

Chocolate, by default, is already vegan.

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Holy fuck, he supplied the cringiest follow-up comment about half an hour ago…

Ah, I didn’t even realize. I guess the fact that you can’t really sniff out tone through online text sometimes hinders that ability.

I know you’re very unapologetic (and that’s based as fuck), but you know, I didn’t wanna call you an asshole. I just wanted you to have a bit more empathy, even if it’s with someone who has a carnistic mentality.

We also wanna eat trash!

My fellow vegan racremoved…

I get where you’re coming from, but veganism does handle a hefty shift in mindset. Most of us were raised and taught to believe that animal flesh and secretions are food. Though one can logically acknowledge that using such a descriptor of “food” for animal products is carnistic and therefore bad in mentality, they can still be struggling to completely move past that mentality even with that level of self-awareness. These are not mutually exclusive.

Of course, I’m not saying to promote apologism, but definitely acknowledge the difference between someone struggling to accept the premise of veganism, i.e., believing that humans should not exploit animals, and them going through a phase where they are slowly but surely aligning their mindset with such a premise as pieces start to come together.

The discrepancy between how correct veganism is and how much society pushes against it can really create the most absurd kinds of cognitive dissonance, I’d say.

Eventually, you won’t even need to “resist.” It’ll come naturally.

I’ve never been too much of a pizza fan, even when I was an omni…

I’m weird, I know. It’s not a food that I dislike, but I’d take practically any other kind of food over pizza if given options.

I use this analogy where I say that both companion animals and animals exploited for other purposes, such as food, experience speciesism, but they experience it differently. The difference is akin to the difference between racial fetishization and aggressive racist attacks. Both are forms of racism, but one comes off as a “kinder” and more “benevolent” form of racism than the other.

Dogs and cats are still victims of human supremacy on a daily basis, to a point where they’re treated as commodities and toys for humans to play with rather than truly being respected as the beings they are, independent of how they can serve human interests.

Dingwall basses, unfortunately, are made with leather by default. HOWEVER, they specialize in custom basses, and by request, you can get a custom bass made vegan using synthetic felt.

And here’s confirmation that the felt is synthetic (as redundant as it may seem for me to clarify).

This is great news for me because Dingwall was my backup plan in case Ibanez was to not work out, and since Ibanez has zero vegan instruments and I was planning on getting a custom if I were to do Dingwall anyway, it seems that I have a winner.

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Add Ibanez as a “No” company.

They love to tokenize POC, and they also try to conveniently forget that vegan POC exist.

I talked to a carnist who told me that “for vegans to say that eating animals is wrong is to say that ALL Indigenous people are doing something morally wrong, so vegans are inherently anti-Indigenous.” Notice how I emphasized the word “all” because this carnist actually used the word “all,” signaling that they believe that Indigenous vegans do not exist. An Indigenous vegan friend of mine proceeded to respond with how they find that to be the truly disgustingly anti-Indigenous thing to say, but they just neglect that and accuse us vegans of color as being “tokens” for white vegans and “enablers of white supremacy.”

I had a similar experience when I, a black vegan, agreed with a white vegan on the use of the term “animal slavery.”

I didn’t see anything racist. What do you mean?