Second and Final Slide

George Martin (@carnism_debunked on Instagram) has a hateboner for what he terms “intersectional veganism.”

He is a chuddy, British vegan who identifies as a centrist, and to be honest, giving credit where credit is due, some of his vegan content is pretty good from a more generalized “Pretty much any vegan would agree with this” kind of standpoint. However, I’m so tired of him being absurdly reactionary.

He complains that his issue with “intersectional vegans,” i.e., vegans who want to incorporate human liberation messages in addition to animal liberation messages into their activism, is that they are taking away from the focus on the animals.

However, this is entirely disingenuous. Quite plainly, George is just a chud and is upset that these vegans express leftist viewpoints that he does not like. He also “both sides” a lot of the intersectional vegans. What I mean by this is that he’ll say things like, “Intersectionals say vegans should be pro-choice to be anti-oppression, but don’t right-wingers consider being pro-life anti-oppression? How are leftists the authorities on what counts as being opposed to oppression? This is why veganism should remain apolitical! 😤😤😤😤”

As you can see here, he is a major hypocrite. He’s made tons of posts where he’s attempted to not-so-subtly shove in his own Zionist commentary in his complaints about “intersectional veganism,” diverting back to “I just want veganism to be politically neutral and only focus on the animals!” when called out for it.

Hell, even some vegans who would normally think at least somewhat decently of the guy are having enough of his shit. This vegan is probably someone George would describe as an “anti-intersectional,” but here is her killer response:

He strawmans intersectional vegans all the time, as he’s stuck in a “2016 SJWs Rekt Compilation” kind of mentality. Of course, he loves to abuse the word “woke.” He actually ended up debating Catherine Klein, a self-identified intersectional vegan, and his strawman arguments were so inaccurate that basically none of the things he complained about in the debate even really applied to Catherine. (2:46:46, hardly worth the entire watch TBH.)

Catherine Klein even commented on this post herself, of course, disapproving of the hypocrisy.

The last thing I’d like to state is that George abuses the shit out of tu quoque fallacies (AKA whataboutism ) against intersectional vegans. He’ll say things like, “How come intersectional vegans always urge vegans to talk about Palestine, but they never urge pro-Palestine protesters to talk about animal rights?” This is his best argument, which isn’t as much of a “gotcha” as he thinks, especially because many vegan leftists do swing both ways, but it’s especially ironic for a man who’s so self-evidently hypocritical to tire the shit out of the tu quoque fallacy this hard.