Before someone talks about the windows to justify the electronic door release, cars have had frameless doors for decades at this point, Tesla didn’t invent anything, it’s possible to have the window go down a bit with a mechanical handle and a switch that gets activated by it.
Do they? I’ve been driving Subarus for over 25 years. Up until my newest one (a 2020 model) they all had the gasketed frameless windows, and I never had problems with water leakage. I suppose if the gaskets are old enough or exposed to UV enough they could wear out and need to be replaced. But that seems like a wear and tear issue and very minor in comparison to a potential deathtrap design.
I never experienced that with a Subaru I had ~15 years ago. Not even in a car wash. There may be a reason, but I dont see how this could be it. Maybe wind noise?
Like… What tesla has? There are mechanical door releases, it’s the big lever on the handle.
Yeah, it’s lacking on older models in the rear. But this car in question had those? I don’t understand how the front people didn’t get out. The rear ones, yeah, it’s quite fucked.
The ones they have are emergency releases and don’t activate the windows, in some models the emergency release is under the door pocket mat, under a cover that needs to be pried open, in others they’re behind the speaker grills.
What I’m saying is that they 100% could have mechanical handles that activate the windows as the regular mean to open the doors, it’s a deliberate choice not to have them and that choice can kill people.
Before someone talks about the windows to justify the electronic door release, cars have had frameless doors for decades at this point, Tesla didn’t invent anything, it’s possible to have the window go down a bit with a mechanical handle and a switch that gets activated by it.
Or just use a gasket like subaru’s did/do. I had frameless doors in ~2000 with no electronics required.
Yeah they have water leak issues though (which auto lowering windows don’t as their sealed like in framed doors) but they’ve had that setup for ages.
Do they? I’ve been driving Subarus for over 25 years. Up until my newest one (a 2020 model) they all had the gasketed frameless windows, and I never had problems with water leakage. I suppose if the gaskets are old enough or exposed to UV enough they could wear out and need to be replaced. But that seems like a wear and tear issue and very minor in comparison to a potential deathtrap design.
I never experienced that with a Subaru I had ~15 years ago. Not even in a car wash. There may be a reason, but I dont see how this could be it. Maybe wind noise?
Like… What tesla has? There are mechanical door releases, it’s the big lever on the handle.
Yeah, it’s lacking on older models in the rear. But this car in question had those? I don’t understand how the front people didn’t get out. The rear ones, yeah, it’s quite fucked.
The ones they have are emergency releases and don’t activate the windows, in some models the emergency release is under the door pocket mat, under a cover that needs to be pried open, in others they’re behind the speaker grills.
What I’m saying is that they 100% could have mechanical handles that activate the windows as the regular mean to open the doors, it’s a deliberate choice not to have them and that choice can kill people.