• PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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    9 days ago

    If they are outside the US, actively in contest with it in some kind of zero-sum game, then I don’t have too much to say that’s upset with them.

    If they are outside the US and angry about its imperialism, I think they have yet to learn that the US doesn’t have a monopoly on it, and some of the other brands are somehow even worse. But the temporary or permanent collapse of the US might still be a good thing for them, depending.

    If they are in the US, and edgelording, then fuck ‘em. I don’t exactly wish on them what’s in store, but there is a certain grim anticipation, I guess, of the day they start to learn about the reality of what they’ve been talking about.

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    9 days ago

    Accelerationism is usually championed by people that have never experienced or are unfamiliar with the kinds of hardships it will precipitate.

    The downfall of civilizations is rarely a good time.

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      Accelerationism doesn’t even make sense at the moment, if a revolution breaks out, it will be a free-for-all, with different groups trying to claim all the power. And judging by the results of the election, the majority of Americans either fully support or are fine with fascists winning. The working class has to be educated, has to have their consciousness built up before a revolution can actually go communist, otherwise you just end up with populism and fascism. It’s very shortsighted thinking.

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        They’re absolute morons, honestly. They are completely oblivious to their lack of manpower.

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          8 days ago

          What do you mean?

          I have been assured by several liberals that this loss is entirely the fault of 15 million radical leftists in America that decided to let fascism happen.

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            And there we have the core of the delusion:

            They did something that aligned with you, so now you think they’re ride or die for the revolution just because they watched enough pro Gaza TikToks to convince them to sit out the election.

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              Don’t really get this sarcasm thing, huh?

              Or reality. If there were 15 million leftists in America you’d know.

              I voted solid blue, btw, because actual leftists, and not the liberal’s delusional versions of them, understand what’s at stake, unlike the great mass of disinterested and disenfranchised voters liberalism itself creates.

  • alci@sh.itjust.works
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    Not sure yet what this “tankie” thing is about… It seems to be an american thing, and as far as I understand it is used to disqualify anyone not aligned with social democrat point of view (ie western world is the good ones, despite what the 70 last years show us, capitalism is the least worst system, and societal liberalism is a huge enough concession to leftism). Or am I wrong ?

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      7 days ago

      Tankies were originally members of the Communist Party of Great Britain who were in favour of Soviet tanks mowing down first Hungarian and secondly Czechoslovakian ( as they were then ) protesters. These days it’s used as a pejorative towards anyone who has a good thing to say about communism / socialism etc.

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        7 days ago

        lol no it’s not. You can be a communist and not be a tankie. Tankies are hardly communists themselves.

        Tankies are authoritarians and defend authoritarianism. Do not use apologia.

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          You genuinely have never heard it used in a pejorative way against any red? I never said all commies were tankies. I explained the words etymology and then its subsequent broad (mis)application in current online parlance. Hope you’re not reading theory with those comprehension skills, comrade.