• rbn@sopuli.xyz
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    17 hours ago

    So your alternative would be that ambulances should no longer use cars? From my perspective all kind of emergency services such as fire department, law enforcement, ambulances should be the very last cars we get rid of as a society. They have to be fast and they need to transport a lot of stuff and people.

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        47 minutes ago

        The rest of the world does without GIANT and dangerous emergency vehicles for one.

        Could you show me those small and safe emergency vehicles that are used outside the USA? Because I’m outside the USA, I literally live near a firefighter station, and they’re all probably as big as US vehicles.

      • Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        7 hours ago

        Any vehicle large enough to carry the necessary equipment and people for emergency services is going to be dangerous to pedestrians. Not sure what you’re trying to prove here.

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          6 hours ago

          Tell me youve never been in another country without telling me youve never been in another country.

          Ambulances and firetrucks in Europe and Asia are smaller than most american pickup trucks.

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            5 hours ago

            I agree that the US have way too many way too big trucks but this…

            Ambulances and firetrucks in Europe and Asia are smaller than most american pickup trucks.

            … is just wrong. I live in Germany and even small villages with only volunteer firefighters have full blown trucks way above 10 tons.

            Most fire departments have something like this:

            MAN TGM 18.330 Tank with 4,000 litres of water 18 tons total weight

            More specialized departments close to industrial facilities, airports can be also much bigger. This one is currently the biggest weighting 52 tons.

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              3 hours ago

              Weight doesn’t matter in this context? US firetrucks are almost a meter wider than german ones. A german firetruck is only about half a meter wider than a Ford F450.

              And also firetrucks in US are first responders, they go before ambulances for most emergencies.

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              Here in 'Murrica, they send something like in the second photo when grandma falls in the bathroom.

              Yes, I’m exaggerating, but not by much. The truck in the first photo is smaller than the trucks my city fire department has. There’s a retirement community not far from where I live, and they send a ladder truck for medical emergencies there several times a week. I’m not really sure what use 4,000 liters of water would be when somebody is having a stroke.

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            6 hours ago

            Unless they have some sort of advanced materials science in other countries we don’t know about here in the US that makes them as light as cardboard, I’d bet my year’s salary you wouldn’t volunteer to let one hit you.

            And yes, I have been out of the US. Shall I tell you what we say about those who “assume” things over here?

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              6 hours ago

              Clearly you didnt watch the video, because you couldn’t be more wrong. This is uniquely a north american thing

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                  North america is the only place where the trucks are this wide, and where the firedept has the power to regulate the size of infrastructure (and where bike lanes can be) for their increasingly large trucks.

                  But don’t watch the video or anything, keep arguing your ignorance.

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                    2 hours ago

                    Your comment said uniquely north american. I even edited my comment to say North American to match your language since I initially did say US.

                    When I came into this thread, you may have noticed I was renting to you and your assertion that pedestrians outside North America don’t get injured by heavy metal objects. I don’t care how compact your vehicles may be, a hunk of solid metal in motion is going to injure a squishy human being.

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        11 hours ago

        Fun fact, many if not most of those ambulances are made in Canada, and not the USA.