• doublehelix@lemmy.cafe
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    15 days ago

    Trump’s vote was largely static. He didn’t add significant support in any way. We already knew a third of the country was filled with regressive assholes. The reason he won was that over 15 million people who voted for Biden in 2020 sat this one out. This was 100% a messaging failure and the DNC deserves all the blame. Sanders is absolutely right here. We wanted to hear about unions and job protection and taxing billionaires, not see Harris try to court right wingers while paling around with that fucking ghoul Liz Cheney and her war criminal father. They fucked up, they lost.

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      Trump’s vote was largely static. He didn’t add significant support in any way.

      That’s my point. Trump is a known quantity now and he didn’t lose support. That’s a failure of the US electorate.

      Ask yourself why Harris had to run a near perfect campaign to even stand a chance of winning while Trump ran a campaign that should’ve seen him lose badly, in a more informed and moral country, and still won.

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        Because she’s party of the administration in power and people aren’t happy right now, so they blame whoever is in power even if it’s not quite their fault. They don’t care that the rate of inflation slowed to basically normal, they care that things are still expensive because their wages haven’t risen to match the raised inflation and their savings are lower. It used to be easier for incumbents, but as the conditions in the US continue to degrade from late stage capitalism and 60 years of neoliberal policies, I have a feeling it will continue to be the opposite.

        Holding the line won’t work with people getting poorer every year (and if your wage doesn’t match inflation or the rising costs of housing or transportation, that’s what happening, you’re getting poorer).

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        15 days ago

        Bro if you call that campaign “near perfect,” have I got a bridge to sell you.

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      I’ve been wondering about exactly this, do you have any statistics you can point me to? No hard feelings if it was a thing you saw but didn’t save.