• Star Wars Disney Plus shows should move away from Jedi-centric stories and explore other aspects of the Star Wars universe
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  • Suggestions for new Star Wars show ideas include Pod Racing, Jawa Storage Wars, and One Man and His Droid, among others
  • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    A well-written opinion, but I can’t agree.

    Jedi/Sith are central to Star Wars, everything else is just the support for that story.

    Having said that, I have no problem with seeing other parts of the Galaxy and how they interact and react to the Jedi/Sith struggle, etc.

    But to focus on that exclusively, no.

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      5 months ago

      for that story

      that story got told, over 40 years ago, by the first three star wars films

      trying to continue to tell the same story over and over—trying to continue feeding the same meat into the same grinder—is what gave us episodes 7-9, and to a lesser extent 1-3

      but there’s still plenty of life in the world building and universe those films created

      But to focus on that exclusively, no.

      have you watched andor?

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        but there’s still plenty of life in the world building and universe those films created

        The flip side of that though is just you end up with detective shows and spy shows and soap operas, in space, with a splash of sci-fi paint thrown over them. Been there, done that.

        Jedi and Sith are a unique storytelling point, and there hasn’t been enough about their conflict with each other, and by that I mean whole organization versus whole organization wise, and them manipulating the larger politics of the various systems and so forth to their cause, etc. Not just the singular Darth Vader versus Luke Skywalker fight kind of conflict.

        The Sith as a large organization hasn’t been seen in movies or tv, only in games.

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          The flip side of that though is just you end up with detective shows and spy shows and soap operas, in space, with a splash of sci-fi paint thrown over them.

          jedi are literally samurai with a splash of sci-fi paint

          Jedi and Sith are a unique storytelling point, and there hasn’t been enough about their conflict with each other, and by that I mean whole organization versus whole organization wise, and them manipulating the larger politics of the various systems and so forth to their cause, etc.

          you’re describing the overarching plot of the prequels

          The Sith as a large organization hasn’t been seen in movies or tv, only in games.

          the rule of two kind of makes that impossible

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              5 months ago

              if where you draw the line on what counts as integral to a narrative is that arbitrary, why not just toss jedi too?

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                if where you draw the line on what counts as integral to a narrative is that arbitrary, why not just toss jedi too?

                Just because you declare it as arbitrary doesn’t mean it’s actually arbitrary.

                If you ask most people on the street what is the most iconic thing about Star Wars, they would either tell you Force wielders, or Jedi/Sith.

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                  Just because you declare it as arbitrary doesn’t mean it’s actually arbitrary.

                  either you’re defining star wars by the films, or you’re picking and choosing what really “counts”

                  you’re doing the latter

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                    Just because you declare it as arbitrary doesn’t mean it’s actually arbitrary.

                    either you’re defining star wars by the films, or you’re picking and choosing what really “counts”

                    you’re doing the latter

                    No, I’ve watched pretty much everything at this point, and have read the EU books to boot (really enjoy some of them).

                    And I remember the decades of TV news/videos and publication stories/articles about what makes Star Wars, Star Wars.

                    I’d feel confident if you put it up to a vote, that the Force and/or Jedi/Sith is the primary response to the question “What is Star Wars to you?”. Everything else is just copying other stuff and slapping a sci-fi paint on it. Traveller TTRPG like.

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