It’s why I don’t use the term myself.
Are there instances where vegenaises* do use their chuddiness to give God awful takes on things like Israel’s veganwashing? Yes.
Are there instances where it seems like some vegans need to be educated on the fact that other forms of oppression beyond the kind of oppression that the movement is fighting against can exist within that movement? Yes.
Are there vegans who just do some all-around cracKKKer shit that makes it seem like they’re completely forgetting the anti-oppression nature of the animal liberation movement? Yes.
But let’s be real here: most of the times that people have gripes with “white veganism” are just instances where they’re trying to reconcile the cognitive dissonance of harboring a reactionary sentiment (anti-veganism) and leftism simultaneously.
Let’s not forget that many of these fuckers who do this are white themselves and have also proven themselves to be totally inconsiderate of the voices of BIPOC vegans.
*vegenaise = vegan mayo = white vegan
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Funny enough, one of the top Google results for “white veganism” is this University of Michigan article. Let’s see what they describe as white veganism:
Further, vegans who enable white veganism may have a strict outlook on animal consumption that does not extend leniency to the cultural practices of hunting by Indigenous and traditional peoples, nor their traditional diets containing animal products. Lastly, it is unfortunately common to see vegan activists juxtaposing animal agriculture to historical injustices posed on marginalized communities. Comparing animal agriculture to others’ trauma and historical systems of oppression that still marginalize people today is not inclusive and, if anything, makes people feel unwelcome in the vegan community.
I could point out that the author of this article is white as driven snow, but I think it’s more productive to look at what Michael Parenti had to say on the subject. He addresses this sort of appeal to cultural relativism in his book The Culture Struggle:
The reason for respecting other cultures is to avoid doing harm to the people who live in them. But what if certain practices within the culture itself harm segments of the population? What claim, then, does the culture have to being above judgment? In South Africa, for instance, police are frequently dispatched to investigate muti killings, murders committed in order to present a traditional priest with a severed hand or genitals or heart so he can cure a disease or bring some business gain to a supplicant. 51 South African authorities seem to have zero tolerance for this sacred aspect of indigenous culture. Presumably so would the murder victims had they been given a say in the matter.
It’s not hard to see how this applies to carnism if you accept the premise of animal personhood.
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Also, as an added note, I love how she lists Seb Alex as one of her favorite BIPOC vegan creators/activists, even though Seb actually has the correct take on this.
lmao that owns
it is unfortunately common to see vegan activists juxtaposing animal agriculture to historical injustices posed on marginalized communities
This one really breaks some people even though it’s the most obvious - if you conceive of some people as (non-human) animals, then the treatment of human livestock is going to look pretty similar to non-human livestock.
I default to not even talking about traditional diets and traditional hunting because barely anyone can do it anymore - I was with some mob up North a few months ago who would traditionally hunt dugong for use in cultural procedures but haven’t got 50 years to let the population recover from overfishing and illegal fishing. There’s definitely a tension between cultural relativism and intervention.
Vegans don’t go to indigenous communities to attack their traditional lifestyle.
but some lib on Twitter said they do??? Explain that, veg00n
When i complain about white vegans im actually just complaining about white people, i dont even care if theyre vegan or not. In fact, my views on veganism change complrtely based on what type of white person im making fun of. I am thr ultimate anti-anglo machine. Buy my nerchanidse. Read my literature
