Getting these up early while I’m thinking about it, I know it’s hard to believe, but I do have OTHER things happening on Mon/Tue that might interfere.
This thread is for the Presidential election, my plan is to start marking wins as soon as they are called, sorted by time zone.
Some states are going to take longer than others. Polls generally close at 8 PM local time, but they can’t start counting early/mail in votes until after the polls close.
Wisconsin in particular has an interesting system where ballots are collected by MUNICIPALITY, not precinct, they have over 1,800 ballot counting locations and don’t report until ALL 1,800 are in.
https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/10/22/wisconsin-voters-election-milwaukee-security-denier
Currently 232 EC votes from Blue States:
4+19+10+7+3+3+4+10+11 +4+14+28+4+3+13+54+12 +10+5+8+6
93 EC votes from Battleground States:
10+16+15+16+19+11+6
Which leaves 213 EC votes in Red States.
9+6+6+6+8+6+10+5+3+7 +3+40+30+11+8+17+9+11 +4+3+4+4+3
270 to Win.
Online map here!
Just listened to Selzer break down her methodology in clear, simple terms. I’m starting to think the polling error this cycle is pretty big, and Harris is going to win handily.
I’ve been thinking about this too.
I’ve heard a lot of commentary about how polling has addressed the shortcomings of recent election cycles and that its more or less all fixed now. I do wonder though, there seems to be a heap of things that are very difficult to account for.
For example, who’s actually going to vote vs just intending to vote. For example the garbage thing has motivated a lot of people to get it done.
Another is the late break. I think for a lot of people that just don’t pay attention to politics, if you ask them 2 weeks ago they just haven’t really thought about it - their answers are precooked from last cycle. As the big day comes around and people think about candidates, lots of traditional republicans voters will make a different choice.
Also just generally with polls is the type of person that actually completes polls. Most people ain’t got time for that.
Of course I understand pollsters try to control for these things but as these problems stack up its easy to see how there can be some surprises.
God I hope so… The #1 problem with polling has been trying to determine who is or is not a “likely voter”.
We’re seeing that in PA. 22 recent polls, 18 “Likely Voter” polls, meanwhile 100,000 new voters casting ballots early. New voters aren’t counted as “likely”.