Archived copy is here: https://archive.is/DqZ6m

The article says this:

“Immediately withdraw from NATO’s integrated command and then, in stages, from the organization itself. Reject the tribute demanded by the United States of 5% of GDP devoted to defense spending,” read France Unbowed’s 222-page program.

However, France under Mélenchon would still provide assistance to European Union countries under EU treaties, the document added

Is Melenchon right? Is it better for the EU to be the organisation of mutual defence guarantees for Europe, rather than NATO?

      • njm1314@lemmy.world
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        I’m curious how you can argue it’s not tribalistic. I’m not arguing against it I think it’s actually serves a very useful purpose. But I’m just stuck on how it’s not tribalistic because by definition it’s an Us Versus Them organization. The whole point is to defend us against them. That’s literally why it was founded. That’s absolutely tribalism.

        What NATO is, is a defensive Alliance.

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        sadly, you’re not gonna convince many people on lemmy that “this implementation isn’t perfect, so therefore the entire idea is bad from first principles” is a stupid and misanthropic worldview.

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      Bullshit nonsense with no context. Is every person on earth part of the global collective “tribe”?