• foggy@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Yes. Just tell millions upon millions of suffering people they can’t cross the invisible line to find refuge.

    Genius strategy.

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      7 months ago

      Do you think the people who fear migration care the slightest bit about anyone but themselves?

      An awful number of them would support attacking rafts filled with refugees with military warships.

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        7 months ago

        Nah, but the sinking rafts bullshit is a super dangerous ploy and needs to be addressed somehow. We cant incentivize it. Maybe just jail everyone involved so no one wants to pay just to sit in an Italian prison?

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        7 months ago

        Are you suggesting people culturally removed from your own are a threat to you in some way?

        Cause damn. That’d be embarrassing.

        Like did they train your job in pantomime?

        Or are your own police not more violent to their citizens?

        What is it that allowing immigrants in doesn’t improve?

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          Are you suggesting people culturally removed from your own are a threat to you in some way?

          I can rather confidently say that there are cultures with values that are a threat to me, my society and my values, yes.

          Cause damn. That’d be embarrassing.

          Not in the slightest.

          Or are your own police not more violent to their citizens?

          No. For a very long time our police was amongst the least violent in the world. Probably still is.

          What is it that allowing immigrants in doesn’t improve?

          It reduces the productivity of society. Most certainly on an output/capita level, probably even on a total output level. Previously we were able to afford huge amounts of support to organizations such as the UNHCR (almost 1% of GDP) - money that could be used to make the places these people are moving away from better. That isn’t the case anymore.

          The solution isn’t to move everyone to developed countries, it is to improve the situation in developing countries. We can’t help with that if our country is an unstable mess of migrant gangs attacking each other and the rest of us.

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            7 months ago

            lol I’d be embarrassed to have such a narrow-minded worldview. You should be too. But go on and stay stubborn, I don’t care. I’d tell you to enjoy your life, but that won’t be possible for you. Is sad.

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              7 months ago

              It’s amazing how quickly you resorted to toothless personal insults when you ran out of relevant things to say. Would be sad if it wasn’t so funny. Thanks!

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                7 months ago

                You’re correct. I tagged you as “low value user” and will only respond to you as such from now on, because I don’t value your opinion in any way shape or form.

                Cheers! 🥂

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          7 months ago

          Well yes, some cultures are dangerous. Rape culture for instance.

          As for jobs, short sighted management will always take a lower skilled worker for less money.

          Honestly, I dont see how immigration helps the worker, theyre scabs in my book.

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            …rape culture? Wtf kind of truth social bullshit are you on about? This question is rhetorical.

            As for jobs, only if you have 0 fucking skills. Get good and stfu.

            Your arguing that “foreigners are highly skilled professionals here to take our jobs but also they’re criminals and rapist boogymen”

            They can’t be both, unless they’re, ya know, just regular humans like your neighbor.

            Christ.