It was not an energy ceasefire. It was a gift to Putin. A White House official told Axios that, as Trump understands it, the term means only that Russia and Ukraine stop attacking each other’s oil refineries—and that this is what Washington expects Ukraine to do. Ukraine has one refinery, while Russia has 38, of which 21 have been targeted by Ukrainian drones.
Fuck the wine… Canadians are getting seized at the border. Do NOT go to America. It sucks there. There’s nothing good there. And you could die there.
Most of us down here are simply stuck with the latter. 😢
No really, they have arrest quotas and a disconnect from reality, with a dash of bigoted asshole. That guy cares about his bottom line and nothing else, you’ll get thrown in a camp. It’s not worth the risk.
Do you have any info on people getting seized at the border? I am traveling to the US at the end of November. I have heard rumors, but not much concrete.
I don’t. But I wouldn’t risk it either. Nothing in America is worth it.
My girlfriend is there, and for her I would risk anything.
Canadians are getting seized at the border.
Great, I’ll just tag you as fearmonger - good to know.
Cool. Taged you as ignorant.
Mmk, I don’t doubt a future exists where the U.S. starts pulling more shit like this but I’m also not about to start doing the fascists job by fearmongering. If that makes me ignorant, so be it.
Also, Canadians have spent time in ICE custody in the past year - as far as I can see, however, none of them have been tourists. They’ve been people who immigrated, whether they’re green card holders or legal residents.
So yeah, fascism bad, fearmongering bad. I’d definitely recommend that other user do whatever they can to get their GF out if they can - but you need to research the word vomit you think about spewing.
LMAO…. Okaybuddy
There’s been multiple Australians accosted, held hostage without any warrant, then sent back.
Dont go to the US. Especially after the midterm bloodbath to come.
I don’t know I live/am trapped in the US and I don’t feel comfortable encouraging it.
Do you look “white”? Then maybe but even seeing myself have to honestly make that stipulation makes me nauseous and unconfident to say it is safe here for anyone.
Yeah stop coming here for outlet shopping
17 more refineries to go.
I wonder what back doors NATO equipment has that the US can use to turn off equipment.
If NATO decides to go rogue and turn on the US, I doubt their equipment will work for very long.
What a stupid comment. NATO is a treaty organization. There is no going rogue.
Who does NATO buy weapons from? Who wrote the standards?
Wtf, why China? They’re obviously going to be the next global superpower.
I don’t think it’s about treating China like an enemy but more about becoming over reliant on them. If we get on their bad side (which we problaby will at some point) how fucked are we if they stop trade with us?
I mean you have to trade with one or the other preferably both. They are by far the largest economies in the world. What do you replace them with? You can’t, sure trade with everyone else also but unless you want to severly limit your market you don’t have a choice.
I would imagine we would be pretty fucked right now if they decided to stop trading with us, being our second largest trade partner, lol.
Well the problem with a global economy is there actually aren’t that many people to purchase from you. If you lose your biggest customer there isn’t one up the street.
China has been trying to decouple just as hard as the west has from it. They can only get so far from one another.
China has taken a side.
Tell me more
We’ve pretty clearly demonstrated why having a global superpower is a bad thing.
Lol, let’s try a left wing global superpower for once.
Let’s try countries minding their own business for once.
Hahaha
“It’s not [x], it’s [y]”
[screams and starts destroying furniture]
Stop buying crap from these countries. They are a literally our enemies.
Gonna be hard to be against China in this envorment. I fine with trade with them. It this situation is becoming impossible unless euro and Canada significantly bolster ties.
China is literally keeping slaves, openly and without shame. They’ve taken Tibet and Taiwan. Like… let’s not be cool with China, yeah?
They’ve not taken Taiwan idk where you got that idea, and America uses slave labor and side with slaver country’s frequently as well, if the aren’t openly attacking us I don’t the issue with us selling from a country that isn’t any worse then America, if we don’t we won’t have much anyone to trade with unless a the global south suddenly decides trading with us is a good idea.
Let’s not use America as an example, hmm?
I mean the two biggest economies in the world you can’t just ignore them.
Obviously not, but we should also be cognizant of their track record.
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The whole world is using Ukraine as a training ground. Yes we’re technically siding with the oppressed… but we cannot truthfully say that 100% of the motivation is protecting Ukrainian sovereignty and/or mitigating Russian aggression. EoD militaries need soldiers with combat experience; especially given how rapidly fpv drones have changed the landscape of warfare.
Not for long. You know how frequently trump changes his opinion

Yes this is a good point to bring up, it is easy to forget after seeing Trump backstab good people over and over again that Trump will backstab bad people too if he is pressured into doing so and the bad people begin to be appearing to lose.
I genuinely have no doubt Trump wants Putin to win but this is made irrelevant by the fact that Trump is a massive fucking coward who pathologically cannot be caught being on the loser side and will always betray everybody around him to jump ship to the winning side. Just read about how pathologically Trump is incapable of losing at casual golf to other people, it is seriously fucking deranged… and then apply that to Trump being cornered into being one of Putin’s last real allies and it is obvious he is going to backstab Putin too if we bully Trump enough.
So… I make sure to do my part by calling Trump a loser for siding with losers.
I genuinely have no doubt Trump wants Putin to win
How’s that even relevant?
It explains every one of Trump’s (and Vance’s) decisions with regards to Ukraine.
That site is terribly ad infested and incendiary.
What do you think about the article?
Also “incendiary”? What are you on about??
People on here agree at large about trump being bad. The article is written in a way as to swear in the reader into being against Trump’s America’s actions and defending Ukraine. I feel like a more factual, cold perspective is sufficient. I do not need to be more mad. Do you want us to tie of a heart attack or aneurisma from unfettered rage.
You dying of a heart attack would at least be some kind of action.
I think they want us to wake the fuck up.
Are you asleep?
No, America is generally, and with all due respect you are specifically if you think we are in the middle of anything less than an existential crisis, so like, now isn’t the time for whatever sensibilities of yours that were offended by this article.
Ok, what am I supposed to do about america? What is the use of terrorizing those already in despair? Why use sites that are this difficult to use. Why share what is unhealthy with those unlikely to benefit from it? You are not posting public in truth social but in a left wing cesspool with low hopes for the future.
Asleep it is then. Later.
The article is written in a way as to swear in the reader into being against Trump’s America’s actions and defending Ukraine. I feel like a more factual, cold perspective is sufficient. I do not need to be more mad.
Speak for yourself, I harbor my anger for the injustices against Ukraine as a source of motivation and a way of holding true to my values, what do you accomplish with your inert, emotionless and cold perspective other than to cynically doubt the conviction of others?
Staying sane. And myriad pop-ups and intrusive ads that prevent you from seeing more than 10 words at a time(on mobile) doesn’t make it a joy to read either.
Can you please explain to me what is sane about hyperfixating on the fact that a website has annoying ads whilst ignoring any kind of introspection about an actual honest to goodness fullscale war happening that can and should be stopped right this second?
You think it is rational or sane to distort what is relevant to you in this conversation to such a comical degree??
Yes the ads are annoying, good point, now grow up.
The site not being ad riddled and freezing after 10s makes that difficult. This isn’t about being immature, but expecting some minimum comfort.
This isn’t about being immature, but expecting some minimum comfort.
We are talking about a war currently happening and you have the nerve to say that?
You are a child aren’t you.
I mean those datacenter hits hurt the participation levels on both their websites, of course they would both retaliate against Ukraine.
Canadian gov/Canadian military are working with/for U.S.
China hasn’t done a fucking thing to us. Russia/Ukraine war needs diplomacy not clumsy kabuki theatre to get the masses on board the imperialism train.
Russia is welcome to diplomatically leave Ukraine whenever the fuck they want.
NATO has completely surrounded Russia, North Korea and China with Nukes and proxies.
The west has almost completely abandoned international law.
Russia has zero incentive to end this attrition war. North Korea and China have zero incentive to stop supporting it.
If they did, there is every indication to them that Ukraine would be another nuclear armed NATO proxy.
So diplomacy which probably involves Ukraine giving up some land?
It’s funny how Canadians hyper focus on the status of Ukrainian land sovereignty, but couldn’t give two shits about the rights of south Americans or Africans living under the boot of Canadian mining interests, or even for the land or resource sovereignty of Canadian or Australian indigenous peoples.
Oh look, another deflection. Nobody arguing for Russia here seems to actually get to their point. It’s almost like they don’t really give a fuck who’s doing what.
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The USA is the problem, not Trump.
Drumpf is symptomatic of only one of the systemic problems with this country, and is therefore inextricable from the topic. ✊🏼
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Trump is like our noticeable national facial tumor. Visible, and a major problem, but still just a symptom of an underlying problem. Amerikkkas culture is poison
Both are, but the first includes the second, so I guess you’re right…

A literal Nazi state doesn’t deserve any support.
You’re fucking stupid. No argument needed; you came with your own proof.
You want to do a whataboutism? I’ve got your whataboutism right here.
Ah yes, a private military company being questionable is totally the same thing as state sanctioned Nazism.
Pretty much everything Wagner does has always been approved by Putin, it’s why he used them to do the nasty work he couldn’t make Russian troops do (e.g fighting in places where Russia isn’t officially fighting at all)
Idk the incident regarding Wagner’s attempted push on Moscow and the plane crash that followed that killed its leaders suggest otherwise.
You said the secret word!
Slam Dunk!
Nice Bro!
Just that orange guy. Remember that.
Just that orange guy.
Not just him.
It’s also all the people who support and empower him.
we are fucked, as
farlong as we need russian/US oil&gas and chinese chipsThe China whose chips we need is still aligned with the west until the other China manages to conquer them.
However, the machines that make the chips come from a Dutch company.











