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Saturday’s rally occurred less than 24 hours after Israel struck Iran with strategically targeted missiles the night before. The ongoing turmoil in the Middle East was among the reasons the Muslim and Arab leaders cited in their endorsement of the former president.
“We are supporting Donald Trump because he promised to end war in the Middle East and Ukraine,” Alzuhairi said. “The bloodshed has to stop all over the world, and I think this man can make that happen.”
Upvote for newsworthiness, of course.
Believing Trump is going to save the Middle East from bloodshed, though… I wish Lemmy had a facepalm button next to the voting ones.
Trump is the first guy to jump down Biden or Kamala’s throat if they so much as even hint at not being fans of how Israel is handling things.
But yah…sure buddy, he totally cares about Muslims and will get right to saving them right after some higher priority things like re-instating the Muslim travel ban and giving Netanyahu a handjob in the Oval Office
Trump “ending war in the ME” = let Israel bomb the crap out of the ME.
Who would have guessed Dot would start pushing this issue?
Idk but that’s three strikes in my book. If the community won’t make them go away, I guess it’s time to block.
A few quotes about his peacekeeping strategy:
- https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905
- “[I] fully support Israel defeating, dismantling, and permanently destroying the terrorist group Hamas”
- “[Hamas fighters] will burn forever in the eternal pit of hell.”
- https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/sep/11/how-kamala-harris-and-donald-trump-compare-on-isra/
- “[A ceasefire] would only give Hamas time to regroup and launch a new Oct. 7 style attack.”
- https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html
- “You’ve got to get it over with, and you have to get back to normalcy. And I’m not sure that I’m loving the way they’re doing it, because you’ve got to have victory. You have to have a victory, and it’s taking a long time,”
- “And the other thing is I hate, they put out tapes all the time. Every night, they’re releasing tapes of a building falling down. They shouldn’t be releasing tapes like that."
So his strategy is kill them faster and quieter.
- https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905
I think he is playing a smart move that Harris couldn’t sadly do.
A lot of early signs was there for Harris to give some care about Gaza war and to show support but she choose to be silent and this is the result.
Giving easy answers for complex problems is where populists always have an advantage.
“We will put conditions on weapons sales to Israel” isn’t that complex, but centrists all reject it for exactly one reason.
What one reason in your opinion?
The reason is that centrists support genocide. It’s the only policy they don’t abandon when they encounter pressure.
I haven’t heard centrists support genocide. It’s however considered questionable if what’s happening can be considered a genocide. To many this is an awful war in a dense urban environment against deeply entrenched terrorists.
I don’t think there has ever been a genocide that the victims could end by freeing the hostages they hold captive.
Genocide apologia is disgusting and you should stop. 14 pages of dead Palestinian infants aren’t “terrorists.”
Civilians die in every war and of course that’s terrible.
The best numbers currently available are 40k dead total from which 15k are combatants. That’s less than 3 civilians per combatant. Urban warfare is historically much worse.
I don’t think the available information proves the war in Gaza is a genocide. It should stop regardless.
Saying that she support Gaza and will support them is an easy answer?
Be honest here, she choose the easy safe answer:
“Let me be clear, I will always stand up for Israel’s right to defend itself and I will always ensure Israel has the ability to defend itself,” she said tonight. She said that Israelis should “never again” go through the horror and “unspeakable” attacks of Oct. 7.
“At the same time what has happened in Gaza in the past 10 months is devastating. So many innocent lives lost. The scale of suffering is heartbreaking,” she said.
She gave the easy answer: support for Israel; thoughts and prayers for Palestine.
Trump supports Israel and would happily nuke Palestine. You are completely daft.
I don’t support Trump, but Harris had made a mistake by not supporting Palestine.
Sure you don’t. Keep telling yourself that.
You’re really pushing to get the lying cheating stealing rapist traitor elected aren’t ya.
You must be getting paid for your willful ignorance.
Where did he push for that?
It’s all they spend their time doing. Bad faith actor, most likely paid to.
Then it should not be hard to find hard evidence of them “pushing to get the lying cheating stealing rapist traitor elected” like you said.
I’m tired of seeing Lemmy just putting words into people’s mouth and downvoting people based on assumptions.
It’s not hard. Look at their history.
And there it is. You are finally starting to show your true colors.
He’s not making any move. He’s telling everyone what they want to hear to lie his way into office. As he always has done and will continue to do. In your face, in plain sight, openly and repeatedly.
That includes telling Netanyahu to keep on doing what he’s doing since thats working out so great for Muslims in the Middle East:
But still you take this lying clown seriously.
The only thing Trump will do for Muslims is demonize them and implement another Muslim travel ban while joining Netanyahu in their march toward nationalism and wild xenophobia and leveraging for absolute control over the public.
Amer Ghalib is very openly anti LGBTQ, recently led a conference including himself and Michael Flynn, the Q Anon believing former General who referred to Islam as ‘a cancer’.
He appears to be genuinely believe that Trump is a “very principled person” will solve the conflict in the Middle East.
So basically he’s either lying or a complete fucking moron.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/26/us/hamtramck-michigan-ghalib-trump.html#
Bill Bazzi appears to be a little miniature corrupt authoritarian of his own:
Alzuhairi seems, like Ghalib, to actually believe Trump will bring peace in the ME, which also makes him either a liar or total fucking idiot.
Now you might ask why I call these people idiots or liars. Well it might have something to do with Trump’s previous Middle East Peace Plan expert… and son in law… Jared Kusher, accomplishing nothing other than pissing off Arab and Muslim communities, making the ME even more unstable with his ‘contributions’ to the ‘peace process’.
Or Trump’s basically first major act as President being to attempt to ban basically any immigration into the US from almost every single majority Muslim country.
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Oh right, and here is Rudy Giuliani at the very same Madison Square Garden rally as these representatives of the muslim community here in America:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mxReMQEZOPM&pp=ygUjcnVkeSBnaXVsaWFuaSBtYWRpc29uIHNxdWFyZSBnYXJkZW4%3D
September 11 was our darkest hour, October 7 was Israel’s darkest hour.
They are our best friend.
I worked for Ronald Reagan for 8 years, Ronald Reagan said: “We have to be there for Israel always, because they are always there for us!”
Hamas is not there for us, Iran is not there for us, they wanna kill us (!), and the Palestinians are taught to kill us at 2 years old!
They won’t let a Palestinian in Jordan, they won’t let a Palestinian in Egypt, and Harris wants to bring them to you!
They may have good people, sorry, I don’t take a risk with people who are taught to kill Americans at 2!
I’m on the side of Israel!
You’re on the side of Israel!
Donald Trump’s on the side of Israel!
And they’re on the side of the terrorists!
Yep, sounds like a great starting off point for Trump’s pro muslim middle east plan, mhm!
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