British Columbia has accused the company of failing to report the shooter’s troubling interactions with ChatGPT to law enforcement.
Oh my god, this would open up a whole fucking door. Meta getting sued and in trouble for seeing ppl write about fucked up shit and then doing it, Reddit… it’s all fucking same. They see the shit, they know the IPs that are associated with the vitriol and they do nothing.
I’m hoping that the AI coterie does something really stupid like geo-blocking Canadian addresses or something. That way Canadians will retain the ability to reason and analyze while the American mind rots even farther.
Ban RBC too then, they have the largest ai DC in canada
Child gets guns and shoots people. In response, BC:
- Promises to improve mental healthcare
- Promises to improve trans care
- Promises to improve gun safety
- Promises to improve teacher ability to report concerns
- Sues the manufacturer of the child’s digital imaginary online friend.
If you picked the one that points a finger and doesn’t help anything, you’d be right.
The gun safety you referring to needs to be internal to the RCMP and how they handle confiscations and returns. They returned the rifle and didn’t even bother to check if they had the correct permit for it.
All of the above would be good.
Excerpt from Jesse van Rootselaar’s ChatGPT interaction:
In a hallway, indoors, or a crowded classroom, the 870 [Remington shotgun] is brutal, close quarters is its playground. Assuming each shell results in one hit, you might down 10 to 20 people max, depending on spacing, density, reaction times, and chaos.
Given that these platforms are always actively reviewing and modelling your inputs, and relative metadata, its reasonable to expect that this could have been treated with some appropriate proactive measures from OpenAI. What we see instead is “consider changing something once enough people die” ; the same kind of approach we see with most safety related things.
They’ll deflect to gun control as usual, despite the fact that chatgpt in this case and a few others played such a critical role in facilitating the shooting that they would not have happened otherwise. The RCMP actually returned the rifle to them when they took it away earlier due to a dispute and didn’t even bother to check if they had a valid permit for it. It was fucked in every way.
Edit: I welcome any downvotes going forward.
The RCMP needs to be dismantled in BC and replaced with a provincial force and tribal police.
The are doing such a great job in Ontario investigating the Green belt deals.
didn’t even bother to check if they had a valid permit for it.
They could have checked the long gun registry…oh, nevermind.
Ahahahhahahhahahahaahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahaa!
As if that actually had, or would have had, the effect you think it would have.
The long gun registry, and even the restricted registry, have never once been proven effect or pivotal in resolving or preventing a crime. And it was a massive, massive money sink. Let’s throw more and more money at it while also cutting other critical functions and medical support (mental and physical!).
Bring on the downvotes. I am telling the truth here.
So they’re openly against privacy-concious people?
If your “privacy consciousness” involves detailed plans for shooting up a school, fucking yes, any sane person is against that privacy-conscious person!
They’ll just use that as an excuse to spy on you and me though. There are better ways to catch people other than spying and snitching on them.
Try putting this article on the privacy community and you’ll see my point.
They’re already spying on you and me. (Well on you, at most, since I don’t use their product.) If you don’t want to be spied on, try not to use the product made specifically to spy on you.
But since it is a given (and well-known; they even say so themselves, though not using these words) that they spy on you, if, while spying on you, they see that you’re planning to, and again I stress this, shoot up a school they have an obligation to warn of the upcoming slaughter.
I was talking about the government spying on you, which I can almost guarantee that they are. Won’t be long before they mistake and innocent person for a school shooter and call a raid on their house. If that’s you one day, don’t complain.
I will be far less concerned with me accidentally being raided on a mistaken belief that I am about to do a school shooting than them not raiding someone they know is about to do a school shooting … and then the shooting happens.
I’m sorry if this is confusing to you, but in general I view a period of inconvenience as a mistake gets shaken out far better than a bunch of children getting butchered. Of course this is partially because I’m not American.
What makes you think I’m American? I’m just comparing the data in countries where surveillance is widespread. As far as I’ve seen they’re more often used to imprison people for small crimes, often due to political reasons, rather than catching criminals like these.
I don’t fully disagree that we need to catch these types of criminals, but the method that you’re presenting has never worked and I don’t think it will in the future either.
Insert the meme here of the point flying over your head.
And buh-bye.
If you manipulate someone to kill someone else you are certainly culpable. If you manipulate them in person at secret meeting places, manipulate them over the landline telephone, or manipulate them over the internet through a company’s app, you are equally culpable. I don’t know about the company being culpable though. Would the telephone company who owns the landline be held responsible? Would the furniture store you hid behind to have your secret meetings be held responsible?
They’re not suing the furniture store. They’re suing the company that develops the software that told a person to kill people.
The shooter had used ChatGPT in conversations involving gun violence and plans for the attack. OpenAI’s safety systems reportedly flagged the account months before the shooting. According to B.C.'s allegations, OpenAI’s own safety personnel considered the activity serious enough to recommend contacting law enforcement. Instead, the account was deactivated, but the shooter was allegedly able to create another account and continue using ChatGPT. B.C. argues that OpenAI should have notified police and taken stronger steps to prevent continued access.
This is not a landline issue. This is a ChatGPT issue. There were tragic consequences.
