U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres arrived at the BRICS summit in the Russian city of Kazan on Oct. 22, despite criticism from Ukraine, Voice of America reported.
The BRICS group, a bloc of countries that includes Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Iran, Egypt, Ethiopia, and the United Arab Emirates, is convening in Kazan for a three-day summit from Oct. 22-24. According to Moscow, 36 world leaders are participating in the conference.
Guterres is expected to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin on the sidelines of the event on Oct. 24, according to Russian presidential aide Yuri Ushakov.
Ukraine’s Foreign Ministry criticized the U.N. secretary general’s visit.
Yeah, we disagree on the whole illegal occupation part when it comes to Israel proper. And this in turn leads to disagreement about a lot of the other aspects.
Everything in life has to do with priorities and where you put them and when it comes to the founding of Israel we disagree.
Gaza is illegaly occupied. The Westbank is illegally occupied and partly annexed. East Jerusalem is illegally occupied and partly annexed. This is not by my opinion, but by the ICJ
The people have a right to resist against that. And if the source of the occupation is in “Israel proper” (i presume 1967 borders) then it is legitimate to attack military targets there too. For instance it is impossible to remove the occupation of Gaza through the total border control on the side of Israel without attacking on soil of 1967 Israel.
Or would you say that Ukraine fighting in Kurst Oblast is to be condenmmed too?
There is many similarities between Ukraine and Palestine, except in the way Western leaders and Media talk about it and which side they support.
Hezbollah is in Lebanon. Why do they have the right to keep rocket shelling Israël?
Gaza occupation had ended, settlers where removed, Israel closed it off as gazans have no right to enter Israël, if Israël don’t want them too. Egypt had the border closed too, I guess the people in Gaza are not ones you let into your country.
West bank I have nothing to add, the whole settler stuff is criminal and Israel needs to do to the Jewish settlers there what they did with Gaza settlers, convoy them out back into Israël proper and wall of the border.
The issue is landlocked countries need to play nice with their neighbors and Palestinians have no friends on their borders. Neither Jordan not Syria want open borders with them, cause of the whole attempted coup by the PLO, sectarian “differences” and terrorism.
The fact that terrorist organisations like Hezbollah, Hamas and the PLO are so intertwined with civilian life in the Palestinian territory is an issue… for the Palestinians as it makes everyone in the organisation a valid target.
Edit: Jerusalem should be split off and given a status similar to the Vatican and governed by representatives from both sides imo.
No it hasn’t
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/186/186-20240719-adv-01-00-en.pdf
The occupation never ended, it became more extreme with the blockade
De-development via the Gaza Occupation
The Israeli imposed closure on Gaza began in 1991, temporarily, becoming permanent in 1993. The barrier began around Gaza around 1972.
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The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy
Blockade, including Aid
Hamas began twenty years into the occupation during the first Intifada, with the goal of ending the occupation. Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.
After the ‘disengagement’ in 2007, this turned into a full blockade; where Israel has had control over the airspace, borders, and sea. Under the guise of ‘dual-use’ Israel has restricted food, allocating a minimum supply leading to over half of Gaza being food insecure; construction materials, medical supplies, and other basic necessities have also been restricted.
Settlements, Occupation, and Apartheid
Israel justifies the settlements and military bases in the West Bank in the name of Security. However, the reality of the settlements on-the-ground has been the cause of violent resistance and a significant obstacle to peace, as it has been for decades.
This type of settlement, where the native population gets ‘Transferred’ to make room for the settlers, is a long standing practice.
The mass ethnic cleansing campaign of 1948:
Further, declassified Israeli documents show that the Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip were deliberately planned before being executed in 1967:
While the peace process was exploited to continue de-facto annexation of the West Bank via Settlements
The settlements are maintained through a violent apartheid that routinely employs violence towards Palestinians and denies human rights like water access, civil rights, etc. This kind of control gives rise to violent resistance to the Apartheid occupation, jeopardizing the safety of Israeli civilians.
Visualizing the Ethnic Cleansing
Peace Process and Solution
Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution
How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution
‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs
Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.
On Hezbollah:
Unfortunately the spoiler tags didn’t work, but I appreciate the attempt to keep it readable and split the wall of text.
I admit it’s a shit show and the last decades have done nothing but further radicalize both sides. The unconditional support Israël seems to get is also bullshit… they need to be toned down.
The settlements in the west bank will get no defense from me, even the Olso accords that made this possible are bullshit… Israel should not be there or at least have no civilians there. 3 zones… ppppffff…
The Gaza Strip should have an open border with at least the sea, but if Gaza again sparks violence like in the 90s and October last year, they will be at war again. And bad faith proposals like the Oct 8th swap by Hamas can be ignored… with dire consequences.
Hezbollah is just an Iranian vanity project to fuck with Israël and the US for minimal cost, same as the Houthi rebels in Yemen. Edit: the graph seems disingenuous. As a single attack with 62 missiles by Hezbollah is 1 attack, an f35 throwing a bomb on Hezbollah is 1 attack…
And the Golan heights will never be returned as it’s too important a deterrence against Syria.
It may be your app if the spoilers aren’t working, they are on Thunder.
Iran did not create Hamas, Hezbollah, or Houthis. They all began as anti-colonialist resistance and have their own aims.
GDF’s video on how Hezbollah began is well sourced and thoroughly layed out. The thumbnail is edgy clickbait I recommend to ignore, but the video is genuine.
Yemen has been undergoing a US-Saudi backed genocide for years.
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US complicity in the Saudi-led genocide in Yemen spans Obama, Trump administrations
Because Israel attacked them and has repeatedly escalated the conflict over the past 12 months.
Gaza was described as the largest open air prison by experts around the world.
That’s an incredibly disgusting generalization to say regarding an oppressed population. These people are being isolated and oppressedfrom the world due to their much more powerful and well-funded neighbors and you’re just sitting there saying “Yeah they’re not the kind of people I would want to let in”.
Hamas was funded and propped up thanks in large part to Israel.
Hezbollah started as a direct result of Israeli aggression in the 80s and 90s. Israel occupied the south of Lebanon throughout the 90s and Hezbollah harassed them so much they were forced to leave. This conflict is Israel’s second chance on this whole settlement project.
So why don’t Jordan and Egypt have open borders with Gaza and the west bank then? What’s the deal there? Why have the Palestinians never been a sorbed I to the populations of the other regions countries, like the Jews kicked out of these countries where in Israël?
And about not letting Palestinians in… this is not me saying it, it’s what the other Arab countries are actively doing… while saying they care for the faith of their brethren.
And yeah, Hezbollah and Israel have been shooting at each other for decades. Fascist state government vs antisemitic terrorist organisations.
Israël is filled with people that left where they lived be cause of either anti semitism or the pull to the settler colonial project. An easy solution there is not.
Why do Palestinians have to leave for Jordan and Egypt and why are Jordan ang Egypt expected to take them? Israel could just let them live in their homes like any decent person would expect.
Anti-Semitism because of Israel’s actions. If you’re a state known for killing and displacing Arabs, you don’t expect Arab’s to be nice to you. Israel has dragged Jewish reputation through the mud through their actions.
There literally is. Stop killing and displacing Arabs. It’s not that hard.
They don’t have to leave perse… but they could use these borders to trade and travel… but these borders are also shut… for the good of the Palestinians or something…
And yeah, leave them in the west bank and Gaza.
Antisemitism because of Israel… some yeah, most “just because”… Bit silly to ascribe it all to that.
And hating Jews because the israeli government you associate them with, is doing wrong shit, leads to more violence…maybe even Jews that take their stuff and move to Israel. These will not be the most open minded well adjusted people.
And yes they should stop killing people. But how do we make the peace structural and not just a reprieve until the next flare up.
Their entire system of government is only allowed at the discretion of Israel, and we all know how Israel treats them. So they can’t leave, they can’t self govern, they can’t extract the resources of their own land. What on earth do you expect them to do?
I never said the hatred was justified. But if Israel didn’t do what it has been doing for the past 70+ years then the Jewish reputation wouldn’t be as dogshit as it is now.
How do you make peace? Stop killing people would be a good start don’t you think?
Yeah, I think Palestinians should have the self governance. 2 state solution should be done properly. I don’t think the neighboring countries will allow it, but we will see.
But then many worry (including me) if the Palestinians end up putting the same type of people in charge that will preach revenge and hatred only to drag them into another war we will be back here again. It’s not as if that is unprecedented.
Israël holds the power and they have the responsibility to be better to the Palestinians than they are and help them become a proper state and self govern.