I’ll say upfront that I haven’t investigated much into 9/11 because ultimately I don’t think it matters much whether this theory is true or not. The crimes for which 9/11 was used as pretext were and are despicable beyond description.

But I was wondering what people #OnHere think about this theory because I have only absorbed it from some TrueAnon episodes and random blog posts.

The clearest explanation was something like this. There is a place called Alec Station (name might be wrong) that receives and disseminates intel. But any intel regarding 9/11 was blackholed.

Then there is bits about insider trading around 9/11. Recently a post was shared which listed prominent people missing work at the Towers on the day of 9/11.

Also apparently the 9/11ers were Saudi nationals? I don’t know what implications of this are (assuming it’s true). So if someone could explain that that’d be nice.

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    I am very open to some of the “conspiracy theories” infact I am quite confident CIA/mossad were behind it.

    • It is very likely Americans knew it was going to happen and because of unusual short traffic on the airlines involved. But we don’t know who specifically shorted them. Privacy laws or something…

    • Larry Silverstein bought (leased) the towers 7 weeks before the attack. For 3.2 billion dollars. He was paid out 4.5 billion by insirance because each flight was considered a separate attack, essentially doubling the payout.

    -the towers needed to be renovated to remove large amounts of asbestos from them. It wouldve cost ~1 billion. Although the port authority was paying for that not him.

    -edit* almost forgot Larry Silverstein worked in the towers, he was there routinely. But on that day he deviates from his routine and was taking his kid to school or something like that. Which he didn’t normally do.

    -building 7? -no footage of pentagon?

    I could go on and on. There is just soooo much circumstantial evidence that makes it seem like it wasn’t just “ignored” by the CIA/FBI but very much encouraged. And that some of the events like building 7 or the Pentagon might not be true. I’m sure some of the stuff that doesn’t smell right is actually the truthful story. But there is just such an alarming amount of stuff the doesn’t smell right. -blamed bin laden immediately -bin laden denied it several times -CIA has 100 percent created fake videos of bin laden with actors. (Officially never actually released them) -took forever to get to bin laden -dumped his body at sea, no photos ect.

    Did you know that in 1993 the FBI was encouraging its “” islamist informant"" to use real explosives in a plot to blow up the towers. But the source was uncomfortable with it. Many people don’t know about the 1993 world trade center bombing. The FBI literally already tried to blow up the towers but it failed.

    Wiki: “Emad A. Salem (born circa 1950) is an FBI informant, who was a key witness in the trial of Ramzi Yousef, Abdul Hakim Murad, and Wali Khan Amin Shah, convicted in the World Trade Center bombing of February 26, 1993. He testified that the bomb was built under supervision from the FBI.[1]”

    “During his time as an FBI informant, Salem recorded hours of telephone conversations with his FBI handlers, and reports submitted in court. In tapes made after the bombings, Salem alleged that an unnamed FBI supervisor declined to move forward on a plan that would have used a “phony powder” to fool the conspirators into believing that they were working with genuine explosives. Federal authorities denied Salem’s view of events and The New York Times concluded that the tapes do not make clear the extent to which federal authorities knew that there was a plan to bomb the World Trade Center, merely that they knew that a bombing of some sort was being discussed. But for the recordings, Emad would have been charged as a co-conspirator. It was recordings that were never provided to the New York Times that prevented the FBI from charging Emad.[4]”

    He would’ve been charged of it wasnt for the recording he had.

    I could make the case even more convincing but I’m on my phone. Essentially having have read the details about many american “terrorist attacks” FBI “Informants” that narrowly missed being fall guys, or were much less of “informants” just agents active facilitating a given attack 911 has all the hallmarks of three letter agency tradecraft.

    When you read about Isis, Isis propaganda video creation (in film studios), CIA paying a British firm 500 mil to make fake execution videos “by” al Qaeda, “Isis attacks” in the USA, ect ect you come to realize that you’ve been lied to about every other “terrorist attack”.

    I suck at writing buy maybe I should make a substack or some bs lol. Cuz all of this stuff has been bouncing around in my brain with no outlet to make it coherent.

    To be clear. I more or less completely believe the events regarding the twin towers. But the Pentagon and building 7 are weird.

    I can buy that the Pentagon was shot by a missile and tower 7 was brought down intentionally somehow.

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      He had a “dermatologist appointment”, was like the first time he missed his daily morning breakfast brief ever IIRC.

      His sons also missed work at the WTC that day.

      I think the conspiracy stuff isn’t good to follow though, I’ve found myself believing some baseless garbage, came back to this thread to apologize for not looking into some of the things I’ve heard over the years

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        I think its fine to follow to some degree. Especially because i cant think of a better way to break through to Americans besides 9/11. I think making Americans question 9/11 opens the Pandoras box of much more obvious lies they’ve been fed.

        You just have to be cautious. I think the issue is that many conspiracy theories have a nugget of truth but jump to absurd conclusions. Most people who have the time or interest to entertain conspiracy theories are genuine morons lmao.

        You’ve gotta believe the feds have full time teams of people dedicated to diverting a real theories into a nonsensical ones to discredit the entirety of it.

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      In regards to WTC Bombing of 1993 and the formation of Al-Qaeda in the United States, the CIA trained several “jihadist” in the Al-Kifah Refugee Center which would go on to become terrorists.

      https://www.newsweek.com/war-terror-road-september-11-151771 “Al-Kifah Refugee Center in Brooklyn, N.Y., a dreary inner-city building that doubled as a recruiting post for the CIA seeking to steer fresh troops to the mujahedin.” “On the weekends he visited the Al-Kifah Refugee Center in Brooklyn, where he stayed with none other than El Sayyid Nosair, the man who struck the first blow in the holy war by murdering Rabbi Kahane.”

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/terror-blowback-burns-cia-1182087.html “But by the mid-1990s, America’s view of Al-Kifah had changed. It discovered that several of those charged with the World Trade Centre bombing and the New York landmarks bombings were former Afghan veterans, recruited through the Brooklyn-based organisation. Many of those the US had trained and recruited for a war were still fighting: but now it was against America. A confidential CIA internal survey concluded that it was “partly culpable” for the World Trade Centre bomb, according to reports at the time.”

      “It had already been known that in 1989, Mr Ali came to the New York area to train mujahedin on their way to Afghanistan. Those visits have put him in the spotlight once before: among those he trained was El Sayyid Nosair, who was jailed in 1995 for killing Rabbi Meir Kahane, leader of the Jewish Defence League, and, along with several others, with plotting to blow up several New York landmarks. “

      Al-Kifah Refugee Center’s Boston Branch would create Care International (not the famous organization with the same name) in 1993 following the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. https://charityandsecurity.org/litigation/care-international/

      Other branches of Al-Kifah and “MAK [Makhtab al Khidamat] had offices throughout the World. In North America, MAK was known by the name Al-Kifah” https://www.justice.gov/archive/opa/pr/2008/January/08_nsd_021.html

      https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/media/24191/ocr

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        Thanks. Its not even close smh. Ive focused more on Isis and more recent events so I didn’t know all those specific details.

        Its really insane how robust the american apparatus is for these things yet its a fringe topic that barely gets talked about.