Yeah, it definitely pisses me off to read people saying that the government isn’t changing the weather.
Climate change is human caused, and every government subsidizing carbon extraction has blood on their hands.
There is a colossal difference between “the government CONTROLS the weather” and “the government participates in climate change”
I’ve seen a great idea of reusing those oil rigs as wind farm platforms.
They’re just pulling it up here, the pumping-into-the-air part happens somewhere else, right?
If I produce a magical killing device and sell it knowing it can only kill, not only does it not have any other purpose, but actively cannot be used except to kill, am I at fault for deaths that device causes regardless of if I was the one in possession?
🖐️🔄 “These aren’t the weather machines you’re looking for”
- big oil, for the last 70 years, fully aware of the consequences of their greed.
Claim them and become your own nation
They are ready to be claimed. Hilarious! I never thought about buying my own personal man made island before. Turns out they are quite readily available.
Some of those cheap ones could be crowd sourced
Which form of government will we choose?
Years ago I was looking at decommissioned missile silos. Opportunities abound!!
Could be turned into a really cool themed ocean side water park
Ok Boss.
And the ones in your garage.
Not to defend cars, but that’s what, 7%* of CO² emissions?
While oil rigs have 100%. Ok, aside the gas rigs.
* fuck localized results by default, i find only results for EU and germany. Mind, the 14% of sector transport includes ship and flight too.
Ah, yes, the old “consumers are the problem” rhetoric when, in actuality, they only account for 10% of emissions.
10% is 10%. I can’t control what the CEO of an oil company does, but I can decide avoid using fossil fuels. (Maybe if enough of us did the same, we actually could influence an oil company.) We each have to do everything we can to reduce CO2. Dismissing something as rhetoric doesn’t help.
While I can respect the idea, pragmatically speaking, it would be too little too late. My 10 percent figure refers to global emissions from personal vehicles globally. In the US, these account for less than 2.5% of global emissions
Like another commenter mentioned, the majority of people (in the US) can’t even afford EVs yet, and many can’t afford environmentally conscious food replacements. If the government provided credits toward EV purchases/subsidized production/expanded public transportation, then it would maybe be possible. But given the current economic climate, it won’t happen, and the rate at which it would change even if the government did wouldn’t be significant enough to have a substantial impact. Not to mention that most of these policies are an attempt to disguise a lack of reform in the industrial/power sectors. The article above does a great job explaining why this sort of rhetoric is purposefully misleading.
I can’t control the infrastructure that requires me to drive a car.
Pretty sure it’s “Fuck Cars” rhetoric
But it’s also a 10% over which in western world we have quite a lot of control. You can vote for local governments that want to expand public transport. You can demand more bike paths and pedestrian friendly infrastructure in your neighborhood. There are multiple examples around the world (even in the USA) of communities or even whole cities significantly reducing car-centrism over several years.
It’s wrong to blame people for using plastic packaging when there’s no feasible alternative. It’s wrong to force people to go beyond their comfort by using less electricity or heating because governments didn’t transform the energy sources.
But each gram of CO2 matters and when reducing emissions doesn’t require much effort or sacrifices (like voting) then we all absolutely should do our part.
That 10% created a demand that caused the 60% to happen. To decrease or even eliminate that 60%, the 10% have to change their behaviour as well, even after decades of being indoctrinated.
Not even remotely true. Most emissions are caused by factors completely indepedent from consumer vehicles. Nearly 60 percent comes from power generation, industrial processes, and goods transportation (Not to be confused with personal vehicle use)
Who those power generated for? What those industrial processes making? And who those goods is delivered to? It’s all come down to over consumption.
We all need fuel to drive the car, if the oil is stopped today, what are people gonna do? They still have to change their behaviour regardless.
Same case everywhere. Stopping plastic and consumer has to change the way they purchase thing. Stopping beef industry and consumer has to eat less beef or eat another thing. It’s a cycle, most of that 90% emission that link to big company emission is directly correlated to how the consumer act. You can’t stop oil without first giving a viable alternative transportation everywhere, but you won’t get viable alternative transportation and a properly build town/city if people being a little removed with NIMBY mindset and want everywhere to be accessible by car and refuse to walk.
the ones used to haul people - I have no issue with. of course they must be replaced but in the great grand scale of things, they’re at least hauling people to schools and jobs.
the assholes who look at internal combustion as their personality - the f1s, the nascar types, the tuner heads and vroom vroom fuckwits - they’re doing it for FUN.
FUCK THOSE PEOPLE THE MOST. FUCK THEM EIGHT WAYS FROM SUNDAY. THEY’RE DERIVING THEIR ENTERTAINMENT FROM MAKING IT HARDER FOR CHILDREN TO BREATH. THEY DON’T EVEN FUCKING CARE ABOUT THEIR OWN CHILDREN, BECAUSE THAT’S WHO’S GOING TO PAY THE PRICE FOR THEIR ABSURD BULLSHIT.
Of course replace ICE wherever possible, do the work, but I ain’t angry at some lady hauling her kids around in an ICE kia.
The fuckwit who’s modified their carb so they spew more freedom smog - and the ones who want to watch them race in circles at full tilt - they’re holding the species back. Please, remind them of this whenever you see them. They’re fucking us all over.
I think there’s a MASSIVE difference between Formula/GT/Rally guys and guys who roll coal. True racing cars count for less than 1% of global emissions. The real problem is all the flights and transport necessary to get to the venues. The vehicles themselves are a blip on the radar.
Guys who roll coal are deliberately harming the environment for the sake of making a really stupid point.
Guys who roll coal are deliberately harming the environment for the sake of making a really stupid point.
I don’t disagree but it doesn’t let f1/nascar/etc off the hook. their ‘hobby’ is racing in circles burning gas.
Let me type that again, because the absurdity is powerful:
THEIR HOBBY IS RACING IN CIRCLES BURNING GAS.
work it out mate.
How much CO2 did I waste responding to this comment?
I think the larger point is that non-hobby, essential things like “going to work” or “feeding the family” should not be cooking the planet.
Their hobby is a feat of mechanichal engineering, and like I said, their prescence accounts for less than 1% of total emissions.The research and development that goes into these cars can also translate to consumer cars.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the improved aerodymics, engine efficiency, and reliability from pushing engineering practices significantly offset the emissions created by the sport
Here is an interesting read showcasing that f1 puts out one tenth of the emissions that the world cup does and also shows that the races themselves only cover 0.7% of the sport’s emissions. So that is 0.7% of <1% of global emissions, which is negligible.
I understand that off principle, it may seem like a waste, but thinking pragmatically for a second one can see that the benefits outweigh the environmental costs.
Their hobby is a feat of mechanichal engineering, and like I said, their prescence accounts for less than 1% of total emissions.
their presence accounts for less than 1% of total emission for what? it’s far below total combustion emissions so I have no idea what you’re on about; if you’re asserting that the race itself only uses 1% of the total expended to move the cars to the next race etc., I’ve got radical advice bud:
you could end 100% of that emission by just STOPPING. Let them mario kart, let them gran turismo ffs.
The research and development that goes into these cars can also translate to consumer cars.
yeah this seems like the nasa argument but the actual returns are tiny, teeeny amounts of cross-pollination from the race world to the real world, because even though the real world might benefit from something like radical aerodynamics (vacuum motors for example) don’t work on city streets, or they’re so feverishly expensive that they can’t be applied to the average car.
Cute canard tho.
Here is an interesting read showcasing that f1 puts out one tenth of the emissions that the world cup does and also shows that the races themselves only cover 0.7% of the sport’s emissions. So that is 0.7% of <1% of global emissions, which is negligible.
well that’s fine because I’d like people to stop travelling massive distances for sportsball too. no need to compare, cut 'em both.
