• Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    17 days ago

    The most ignorant and rude question I have, which I just dont understand… Before europe went and colonized and raped the global south, they did not have christianty

    It blows my mind how many have taken to heart the religion thrust apon them by european colonists who’s sole intention was to erase indigeious culture and voice, why do so many praise the european god? Why would folks not cherish thier own and throw out religion of the whites colonizer?

    here in north america, they “re-schooled” and ran conversion operations to destroy the native culture and assimilate them into the white norms. It was brutal, violent, ugly, and genocide.

    Now anyone I meet from the global south, (specifically the caribean and south/central America) is deeply christian/catholic? A religion forced apon the people of the land with violence and no choice?

    I …dont understand the acceptence in severed histories from your own people.

    edit: I feel like if anywhere christiainity should be persecuted is the places if was forced on native populations violently with no choice, IE, south americans countries and the caribean, yet again, everyone Ive met from those places follow the colonizers relgion.

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      17 days ago

      They did, in fact, have Christianity

      Multiple members of religious orders went to the South before colonization, and some of them even condemned colonization

      Christianity existed way before colonization in the South

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        17 days ago

        what was there before the missionaries though?

        I didnt think of that. Of course, Im more versed (albeit still ignorant to a lot) in what happened to the native peoples of my very north region, but

        idk. Ive just, The peoples who were genocided here, what culture remains, it seems they really respected life and the earth for what it gave. I often wonder how the world would have looked without colonization and missionaries. I didnt think of them, the missionaries prior, so, thanks for informing me of that. Its still… another cultures religion, pushing thier religion on someone else. Like their the door knockers of history.

        I guess I should listen to this again, this creator has done a few episodes in south and central america, and it has had me in tears.

        https://youtu.be/BRB9dJmZhVk

        Fall of Civilizations Podcast, ep. 12, The Incas

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          Christianity reached the South via missionaries (not that kind) wayyy before the Odd Millennia ever started at all, and before colonization or bloodshed

          Many missionaries that came to the South before colonization were extremely peaceful and some of them were even martyred

          and “religion” is not “culture”

          completely seperate things

          your faith shouldnt depend on where you were born

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            17 days ago

            culture… religion, yeah sure, youre right, but they do go hand in hand.

            And I guess your faith shouldnt depend on where one is born, but chrisanity’s goal has always been to “spread” thier religion whether the people want it or not.

            For a long time (and arguably still today), what religion you follow is heavily dependent on where you are born.

            Which is why I asked what exsisted before the missionaries came to the americas.

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                17 days ago

                is it why the history of before the missionaries and colonizers is so cloudy?

                because the colonizers did their best to erase it? And seem to be successful in such?

                In history, they did force it.

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                15 days ago

                Ive come back, because Im still thinking about this. I rewatched that episode about the incas yesterday. I hope you can watch (listen to) it, like, if you are to inform, I am too. There are two parts, but to inform, please consider listening to this historical documantary on what happened to the Incas, and thier religions.

                https://youtu.be/BRB9dJmZhVk