I mean lots of things can make things “awkward” for some people that shouldnt be banned - disabilities of all kinds, holding hands with a same sex partner, piercings/tattoos, blue hair, short skirts, farting, pregnant women, in some countries having your hair/shoulders/face/cleavage out…
Some people think kids shouldn’t be exposed to Harry Potter, D&D, rock music, seeing people drink alcohol…
In fairness I haven’t seen the show, I’m seeing a lot of parents say it’s for 13+ teens, and some say 8+.
It has swearing and jokes about sex. I was raised in a household where I couldn’t say “Damn,” “Fart,” or “Ass.” Two close friends of mine don’t care if their 6 year olds say “fuck.” And honestly, it seems like they have a closer relationship to their kids than I do to my parents (I love them and care for them, but our mode of communication is pretty formal).
Also, I was watching Urotsukidoji, Battle Angel Alita, The Guyver around 11-13 years which is probably way worse.
Wouldn’t a kid just not understand what’s happening though? We’ve all experienced watching something again as an adult and being like “ohhhhh THAT’s what it’s about.”
And/or most kids recognize “this character is doing something bad,” even if they don’t understand the context, aren’t we just talking another satanic panic here? Like how it was false alleged CoD or D&D makes kids into serial killers.
I’ve been around enough to know they respect sometimes not being treated like children.
I’m not saying that a child who’s not ready for something should be forced to deal with it. The role of a parent is to be a safety net they can run back to every time the world gets a little too scary—literally, there are studies about this. But for a child that is ready, who wants to know, what I mean to find out is why you would reject them.
I don’t want to explain concpets that most actual adults cant understand, or even discuss in a mature way, to a child.
See, the worry I have is that things like this are the reason those adults don’t understand it. In some respects, these adults are still children because they were never given the opportunity to learn.
And it’s not like it can’t be useful to them. The fact that people can be abused, like certain aspects of it, then hate themselves for liking any part of it—I mean, I can think of a few “left alone with uncle” situations that really ring true here. If they can’t understand what they themselves are going through, I really don’t know what hope they have.
Just to reiterate, I’m not saying we should gather up every 4-year-old and show them a snuff film. What I am saying is that, to some degree, growing up is a self-directed process, and when somebody is ready to tackle something, they should at least be given the chance to experiment with those ideas. Even for adults: only as much as they can handle, and a warm, comfortable room when they can’t anymore.
I get that you do not have to upvote something you disagree with, but we shouldn’t downvote this guy for an honest, different opinion. That’s how you create a hive mind.
I agree with that and I upvoted you, I don’t understand the downvote mentality, either you upvote or you don’t do anything, downvote should simply not exists.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Downvotes are my favorite part of this kind of comment system. I know that, per the rules, “downvotes aren’t for disagreement”, but most people don’t respect that and I think it’s asinine. Both kinds of votes are a valuable way of contributing to a discussion without having to spend the time and effort to write a comment.
Except for the fact that downvotes hide those comments. So all you are doing is creating an echo chamber where everyone agrees or gets removed from discourse.
Yeah, comment hiding was one of the worst changes Reddit ever made, that came years after already knowing that that part of the etiquette doesn’t work though and they did that stupid change anyway.
I agree with your sentiment, that’s what they should be, but time and time again we saw that it is not how they are used, downvotes mostly serve to mark disagreement , doesn’t matter that you provide interesting discussion, if people disagree then the comment gets downvotes to oblivion. And the platform turns into an echo chamber where only one opinion can ever exist.
Wasn’t me. But downvotes are great when used appropriately. We want shit that isn’t worth reading to get filtered to the bottom. A joke that isn’t worth reading. Off topic shit that isn’t a relevant tangent. Spam. Uncalled for rudeness.
But that shouldn’t mean every opinion that disagrees with your own.
Maybe downvotes should be limited. I don’t know that there’s a good technical way to fix this issue.
I mean lots of things can make things “awkward” for some people that shouldnt be banned - disabilities of all kinds, holding hands with a same sex partner, piercings/tattoos, blue hair, short skirts, farting, pregnant women, in some countries having your hair/shoulders/face/cleavage out…
Some people think kids shouldn’t be exposed to Harry Potter, D&D, rock music, seeing people drink alcohol…
I just don’t think it’s that big a deal.
This is such a shitty comparison lol
You’re arguing with a child.
So they are arguing to be allowed at adult conventions?
Can’t they just click the “I’m +18” button on websites like the rest of us?
In fairness I haven’t seen the show, I’m seeing a lot of parents say it’s for 13+ teens, and some say 8+.
It has swearing and jokes about sex. I was raised in a household where I couldn’t say “Damn,” “Fart,” or “Ass.” Two close friends of mine don’t care if their 6 year olds say “fuck.” And honestly, it seems like they have a closer relationship to their kids than I do to my parents (I love them and care for them, but our mode of communication is pretty formal).
Also, I was watching Urotsukidoji, Battle Angel Alita, The Guyver around 11-13 years which is probably way worse.
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you’ve just convinced me that I must watch this show.
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Wouldn’t a kid just not understand what’s happening though? We’ve all experienced watching something again as an adult and being like “ohhhhh THAT’s what it’s about.”
And/or most kids recognize “this character is doing something bad,” even if they don’t understand the context, aren’t we just talking another satanic panic here? Like how it was false alleged CoD or D&D makes kids into serial killers.
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I… you don’t think they could learn from that?
I mean, if it’s really just that it’s too much work to explain, why would it make you uncomfortable?
Why would the panel people be the one’s doing this?
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I’ve been around enough to know they respect sometimes not being treated like children.
I’m not saying that a child who’s not ready for something should be forced to deal with it. The role of a parent is to be a safety net they can run back to every time the world gets a little too scary—literally, there are studies about this. But for a child that is ready, who wants to know, what I mean to find out is why you would reject them.
See, the worry I have is that things like this are the reason those adults don’t understand it. In some respects, these adults are still children because they were never given the opportunity to learn.
And it’s not like it can’t be useful to them. The fact that people can be abused, like certain aspects of it, then hate themselves for liking any part of it—I mean, I can think of a few “left alone with uncle” situations that really ring true here. If they can’t understand what they themselves are going through, I really don’t know what hope they have.
Just to reiterate, I’m not saying we should gather up every 4-year-old and show them a snuff film. What I am saying is that, to some degree, growing up is a self-directed process, and when somebody is ready to tackle something, they should at least be given the chance to experiment with those ideas. Even for adults: only as much as they can handle, and a warm, comfortable room when they can’t anymore.
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I get that you do not have to upvote something you disagree with, but we shouldn’t downvote this guy for an honest, different opinion. That’s how you create a hive mind.
I agree with that and I upvoted you, I don’t understand the downvote mentality, either you upvote or you don’t do anything, downvote should simply not exists.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Downvotes are my favorite part of this kind of comment system. I know that, per the rules, “downvotes aren’t for disagreement”, but most people don’t respect that and I think it’s asinine. Both kinds of votes are a valuable way of contributing to a discussion without having to spend the time and effort to write a comment.
Except for the fact that downvotes hide those comments. So all you are doing is creating an echo chamber where everyone agrees or gets removed from discourse.
Yeah, comment hiding was one of the worst changes Reddit ever made, that came years after already knowing that that part of the etiquette doesn’t work though and they did that stupid change anyway.
I agree with your sentiment, that’s what they should be, but time and time again we saw that it is not how they are used, downvotes mostly serve to mark disagreement , doesn’t matter that you provide interesting discussion, if people disagree then the comment gets downvotes to oblivion. And the platform turns into an echo chamber where only one opinion can ever exist.
Wasn’t me. But downvotes are great when used appropriately. We want shit that isn’t worth reading to get filtered to the bottom. A joke that isn’t worth reading. Off topic shit that isn’t a relevant tangent. Spam. Uncalled for rudeness.
But that shouldn’t mean every opinion that disagrees with your own.
Maybe downvotes should be limited. I don’t know that there’s a good technical way to fix this issue.