Yeah boomers kind of are the problem they were handed much of what they have on a silver platter and then punch out at anyone else that did not get a silver platter and chalk it up to personal failure
They were lucky to be born in a period of relative wealth, and most don’t get why it’s more difficult these days, but they are not responsible for the fact that you get generations have it harder then them.
Those who have all the power are very happy when the plebs fight among themselves you know.
True but also who was voting in Regan? John Howard? Everyone was happy to vote in the social rapists for a cheap paycheque as long as their specific demographic wasn’t getting raped and now we’re all paying the price.
My boomer parents were lucky enough to buy a house and then mortgage renwel rate came in at 21% there was no silver platter, it was fries on paper plates and beans lots of beans
Also when we say that things were handed on a silver platter, we need to factor in the western oppression over the east.
The point I am trying to make here is just to ensure Western bommers have it on a silver plate, the Eastern boomers had to suffer for it. Now we live in a world where everyone except Western boomers are suffering! The hints capitalism being shit was evident and the west did not do anything to change it now is the time for a fresh new world
It’s been generally downwards for about 25 years now actually, still waiting on that oscillation. Assuming that just because things kept getting better up until the 90s so they must start getting better again soon is the kind of attitude that’s enabled capitalism to run rampant and ruin our society and our planet.
Assuming that just because things kept getting better up until the 90s so they must start getting better again soon is the kind of attitude that’s enabled capitalism to run rampant and ruin our society and our planet.
Trump’s a cop. We’re doing something. Wheat, weeds, remember like We said We would do?
The Earth doesn’t exist. Everything reconciles with the Omega. Focus on you and the entanglements keeping you from being the one stopping “the downward,” as you perceive it. Of course, that involves defending your position.
If they weren’t yanking up the drawbridge and making sure the rest of us have to pay for their pensions and to sit around doing nothing but collect rent, I’d agree.
The boomer generation’s biggest crime was being a frog in a pot that’s only just coming to boil. The leopards were still in the distance and life for the most part looked good if you lack the ability to see beneath the surface.
Most people lack this ability. They are incapable of making abstract contextual links and stumble through their lives relatively blind to how the world works. Ignorant.
For most Boomers their ignorance does not make them guilty. Just foolish and weak. Fallible. That’s not enough to lay blame at their feet.
The criminals have and only ever will be the ridiculously wealthy; who’ve orchestrated this mess for wealth, power and hubris. Who’ve stood on the backs of all workers for all written history. Who’ve caused untold suffering and death. Our ire belongs with them.
Division along any other lines only serves those wealthy bastards reaping the rewards from our division.
You write as if the billionaires are the only crooks, there’s a long line of millionaires eager to commit crimes for their billionaire overlords and an even longer line of middle class folks desperate to do anything illegal or not to please their millionaire bosses. It wasn’t only millionaires that voted for brexit or voted for trump in the US.
Most of whom you speak of haven’t done anything “illegal” at least not based on our current laws. Immoral? Some of them yes, some have been complicit in some ways. But they are largely ignorant.
There’s also a difference between doing something immoral to try and survive a system you cannot change and make a good and moderate life for yourself and your family, and seeking power and wealth beyond any conceivable need. You don’t seem to be able to distinguish between the two. You see the middle class as in the same culpability as the Kings and Queens at the top with real power to make change. That’s very worrying.
Theres also a difference between being fooled by those more evil and more intelligent and cunning than they can conceive of; and being the one doing the manipulation and evil. I look at these people with pity for they know not what they do. You seem incapable of differentiating them from the masters that manipulate them.
You also seem in a great hurry to cast your anger and vengeance at a great number of people. In fact, perhaps even a large majority of people from what you’ve said.
With that in mind, in your new world, would we put all middle class families and above to the wall? Or in prison? Where is your line?
My approach would be to remove the Oligarchs only. The ones who have done demonstrable harm to the people and planet. To take their vast resources and assets and do good with it; to concentrate on righting the wrongs. Then legislate to prevent any similar situation ever happening again.
I would not want to live in a world where you paint your anger and project your trauma so broadly. It will cause generational trauma and pain for so many. It will tar many undeserving with the same brush. And it will fundamentally set us back as a species.
And fundamentally at its core, isnt logic or reason, its anger and pain writ large. I would want nothing to do with that awful and horrific future you speak of.
You’re just naive, the average person does not give a single fuck about their countrymen and will do literally anything for a million bucks. Trump is a symptom, but the disease is the banal greed of the average American, led by the boomer generation.
Yeah i want nothing to do with this future either, but it’s already here and it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. You wouldn’t have liked me if we spoke a hundred years ago either, but the rise of fascism and the second world war were coming either way.
Yes that’s exactly it, they’re ignorant to what could be. They’ve grown up in a world that nurtures greed; and settled for it because of manipulation by the system and circumstance.
But where you see them as irredeemable due to that ignorance, I see them as needing leading and showing a different path. Where you see them as in need of punishment for their ignorance and mistakes, I see them in need of educating through compassion.
Just because the system encourages psychopaths to the top of the pile doesn’t change the fact that they only make up 3% of the population. Most people, given the right chance, the right conditions, the right nurturing are fundamentally capable of good.
You’ve given up and welcome blood and death; I have hope. Hope isn’t naive, it’s all we have. The alternative is to give in to fear or anger like you have and welcome a century of pain for everyone you know and love.
And when I say your future, I mean your future. There’s this future we live in now and your proposed future. Both involve pain, suffering and inhumanity. Just of differing conditions. Whether its a Marxist-Leninist continual revolution, or a capitalists fascist state, the pain, the death, suffering and trauma it causes are the exact same.
So if that’s what you truly want. More of the same; just with different systems, you’re no better than our capitalist masters. Congrats. You’re the new problem. Not the solution.
But I suppose at least you’ll be the one wielding the stick this time eh? Fucking honestly.
This future is the complete opposite of what I want, but that’s what boomers are voting for. They ruined this country so they can have shinier gold clubs in retirement. Im not proposing any future at all, my proposition is that when you get hit by the fourth once in a lifetime crisis your boomer landlord will evict you the minute it’s legal. (Oh btw they’re actively pushing year-round to make it easier to evict people.)
Yes we all need hope, the hope is to get out before it gets ugly on the streets.
All you can see is what’s in front of you. All you’re doing is reacting to it with anger over reason. You’re attributing deliberate malicious action where none exist (at least most of the time). Boomers are largely stupid and ignorant to all of this; and that’s by design by those running the system.
Let go of your hate. It blinds you.
You’re no use to the people around you, the ones you care about and love, if you’re blinded by hatred. Choose to be part of the solution rather than the violence multiplier.
“Unrestrained capitalism” is boomer pension funds acting within the bounds of policies that boomers voted to optimize for the greatest return on investment for those pension funds over the course of their life expectancy.
Mostly it’s that in the 1950s, most of the world’s population was still pre-industrial. Industrization massively increases a country’s wealth and ability to bid for resources.
Now the whole world is industrialized, but the planet is still the same planet. The same barrel of oil can go to a refinery worker by Americans in Louisiana or workers in any number of countries that were completely undeveloped backwaters back in 1950.
Stop making this a generational war, boomers aren’t the problem. Unrestrained capitalism is.
Yeah boomers kind of are the problem they were handed much of what they have on a silver platter and then punch out at anyone else that did not get a silver platter and chalk it up to personal failure
They were lucky to be born in a period of relative wealth, and most don’t get why it’s more difficult these days, but they are not responsible for the fact that you get generations have it harder then them.
Those who have all the power are very happy when the plebs fight among themselves you know.
A lot of boomers stand in the way of change and are ULTRA shitty about it
True but also who was voting in Regan? John Howard? Everyone was happy to vote in the social rapists for a cheap paycheque as long as their specific demographic wasn’t getting raped and now we’re all paying the price.
Are you kidding? The people who are responsible are almost all boomers
My boomer parents were lucky enough to buy a house and then mortgage renwel rate came in at 21% there was no silver platter, it was fries on paper plates and beans lots of beans
Also when we say that things were handed on a silver platter, we need to factor in the western oppression over the east.
The point I am trying to make here is just to ensure Western bommers have it on a silver plate, the Eastern boomers had to suffer for it. Now we live in a world where everyone except Western boomers are suffering! The hints capitalism being shit was evident and the west did not do anything to change it now is the time for a fresh new world
Like the feather of Mario World, the cycle of good/bad times and good/bad men/people, there is the oscillation, but a general upward status.
It’s been generally downwards for about 25 years now actually, still waiting on that oscillation. Assuming that just because things kept getting better up until the 90s so they must start getting better again soon is the kind of attitude that’s enabled capitalism to run rampant and ruin our society and our planet.
Fucking right
Trump’s a cop. We’re doing something. Wheat, weeds, remember like We said We would do?
The Earth doesn’t exist. Everything reconciles with the Omega. Focus on you and the entanglements keeping you from being the one stopping “the downward,” as you perceive it. Of course, that involves defending your position.
If they weren’t yanking up the drawbridge and making sure the rest of us have to pay for their pensions and to sit around doing nothing but collect rent, I’d agree.
We just can’t afford 'em
(this is a somewhat tongue-in-cheek look at some reporting/analysis)
Hard disagree.
The boomer generation’s biggest crime was being a frog in a pot that’s only just coming to boil. The leopards were still in the distance and life for the most part looked good if you lack the ability to see beneath the surface.
Most people lack this ability. They are incapable of making abstract contextual links and stumble through their lives relatively blind to how the world works. Ignorant.
For most Boomers their ignorance does not make them guilty. Just foolish and weak. Fallible. That’s not enough to lay blame at their feet.
The criminals have and only ever will be the ridiculously wealthy; who’ve orchestrated this mess for wealth, power and hubris. Who’ve stood on the backs of all workers for all written history. Who’ve caused untold suffering and death. Our ire belongs with them.
Division along any other lines only serves those wealthy bastards reaping the rewards from our division.
You write as if the billionaires are the only crooks, there’s a long line of millionaires eager to commit crimes for their billionaire overlords and an even longer line of middle class folks desperate to do anything illegal or not to please their millionaire bosses. It wasn’t only millionaires that voted for brexit or voted for trump in the US.
Most of whom you speak of haven’t done anything “illegal” at least not based on our current laws. Immoral? Some of them yes, some have been complicit in some ways. But they are largely ignorant.
There’s also a difference between doing something immoral to try and survive a system you cannot change and make a good and moderate life for yourself and your family, and seeking power and wealth beyond any conceivable need. You don’t seem to be able to distinguish between the two. You see the middle class as in the same culpability as the Kings and Queens at the top with real power to make change. That’s very worrying.
Theres also a difference between being fooled by those more evil and more intelligent and cunning than they can conceive of; and being the one doing the manipulation and evil. I look at these people with pity for they know not what they do. You seem incapable of differentiating them from the masters that manipulate them.
You also seem in a great hurry to cast your anger and vengeance at a great number of people. In fact, perhaps even a large majority of people from what you’ve said.
With that in mind, in your new world, would we put all middle class families and above to the wall? Or in prison? Where is your line?
My approach would be to remove the Oligarchs only. The ones who have done demonstrable harm to the people and planet. To take their vast resources and assets and do good with it; to concentrate on righting the wrongs. Then legislate to prevent any similar situation ever happening again.
I would not want to live in a world where you paint your anger and project your trauma so broadly. It will cause generational trauma and pain for so many. It will tar many undeserving with the same brush. And it will fundamentally set us back as a species.
And fundamentally at its core, isnt logic or reason, its anger and pain writ large. I would want nothing to do with that awful and horrific future you speak of.
You’re just naive, the average person does not give a single fuck about their countrymen and will do literally anything for a million bucks. Trump is a symptom, but the disease is the banal greed of the average American, led by the boomer generation.
Yeah i want nothing to do with this future either, but it’s already here and it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. You wouldn’t have liked me if we spoke a hundred years ago either, but the rise of fascism and the second world war were coming either way.
Yes that’s exactly it, they’re ignorant to what could be. They’ve grown up in a world that nurtures greed; and settled for it because of manipulation by the system and circumstance.
But where you see them as irredeemable due to that ignorance, I see them as needing leading and showing a different path. Where you see them as in need of punishment for their ignorance and mistakes, I see them in need of educating through compassion.
Just because the system encourages psychopaths to the top of the pile doesn’t change the fact that they only make up 3% of the population. Most people, given the right chance, the right conditions, the right nurturing are fundamentally capable of good.
You’ve given up and welcome blood and death; I have hope. Hope isn’t naive, it’s all we have. The alternative is to give in to fear or anger like you have and welcome a century of pain for everyone you know and love.
And when I say your future, I mean your future. There’s this future we live in now and your proposed future. Both involve pain, suffering and inhumanity. Just of differing conditions. Whether its a Marxist-Leninist continual revolution, or a capitalists fascist state, the pain, the death, suffering and trauma it causes are the exact same.
So if that’s what you truly want. More of the same; just with different systems, you’re no better than our capitalist masters. Congrats. You’re the new problem. Not the solution.
But I suppose at least you’ll be the one wielding the stick this time eh? Fucking honestly.
To quote Luke Skywalker: “Let go of your hate”.
It blinds you.
This future is the complete opposite of what I want, but that’s what boomers are voting for. They ruined this country so they can have shinier gold clubs in retirement. Im not proposing any future at all, my proposition is that when you get hit by the fourth once in a lifetime crisis your boomer landlord will evict you the minute it’s legal. (Oh btw they’re actively pushing year-round to make it easier to evict people.)
Yes we all need hope, the hope is to get out before it gets ugly on the streets.
All you can see is what’s in front of you. All you’re doing is reacting to it with anger over reason. You’re attributing deliberate malicious action where none exist (at least most of the time). Boomers are largely stupid and ignorant to all of this; and that’s by design by those running the system.
Let go of your hate. It blinds you.
You’re no use to the people around you, the ones you care about and love, if you’re blinded by hatred. Choose to be part of the solution rather than the violence multiplier.
Boomers are a big part of the problem
Who do you think it is that voted for unrestrained capitalism and has been its most ardent crusaders for 50+ years?
Por que no los dos
“Unrestrained capitalism” is boomer pension funds acting within the bounds of policies that boomers voted to optimize for the greatest return on investment for those pension funds over the course of their life expectancy.
Every single time I’ve known a friend who got the house that they were renting rugpulled it has been a boomer selling. Every. Single. Time.
Like yeah, my mom is a boomer and I love them dearly. The generation is rotten, and gen x isn’t much better.
who do you think threw whom under the bus for that?
Mostly it’s that in the 1950s, most of the world’s population was still pre-industrial. Industrization massively increases a country’s wealth and ability to bid for resources.
Now the whole world is industrialized, but the planet is still the same planet. The same barrel of oil can go to a refinery worker by Americans in Louisiana or workers in any number of countries that were completely undeveloped backwaters back in 1950.