Also fucking idiotic. Do teachers who do this really think it discourages the disruptive kid, or rather encourages them by giving them the incredible power of fucking up the day of several dozen other kids?
Had it pulled on classes I was in in Jr high, we figured out that if that’s the threat we might as well all be disruptive. Collective punishment is a great way to foster collective resistance, what are we gonna do, beat the kid that got us in trouble in his bunk with bars or soap in socks who probably was doing something that made us laugh or the teacher who we all probably hate already and is the one who made that choice?
If that kid continues to intentionally fuck up the day of every other person in the class the rest of the class gets sick of it and beats their ass.
Or, in reality, it changes the actions of the asshole from a funny thing all the other kids laugh at and encourage to an annoying thing where everybody else tells them to fuck off because it keeps ruining their day and they stop because they aremt gettingnpositive reingorcement from it.
Are we really gonna do another round of the “homework is fascism and bedtimes are against human rights” struggle session.
I think if most people reflect honestly they probablly weren’t as blameless as a shit head pre teen towards their teachers as they liked to tell themselves at the time.
The reason the teacher punishes the whole class is if the whole class is giggling and egging on the problem student.
If the rest of the class is also sick of the kids shit it becomes way less of an issue.
Also fucking idiotic. Do teachers who do this really think it discourages the disruptive kid, or rather encourages them by giving them the incredible power of fucking up the day of several dozen other kids?
Had it pulled on classes I was in in Jr high, we figured out that if that’s the threat we might as well all be disruptive. Collective punishment is a great way to foster collective resistance, what are we gonna do, beat the kid that got us in trouble in his bunk with bars or soap in socks who probably was doing something that made us laugh or the teacher who we all probably hate already and is the one who made that choice?
If that kid continues to intentionally fuck up the day of every other person in the class the rest of the class gets sick of it and beats their ass.
Or, in reality, it changes the actions of the asshole from a funny thing all the other kids laugh at and encourage to an annoying thing where everybody else tells them to fuck off because it keeps ruining their day and they stop because they aremt gettingnpositive reingorcement from it.
Are we really gonna do another round of the “homework is fascism and bedtimes are against human rights” struggle session.
Eh, still not a fan of getting punished for something someone else did, even if I understand the logic
I think if most people reflect honestly they probablly weren’t as blameless as a shit head pre teen towards their teachers as they liked to tell themselves at the time.
The reason the teacher punishes the whole class is if the whole class is giggling and egging on the problem student.
If the rest of the class is also sick of the kids shit it becomes way less of an issue.
Like, I understand how it works, I just don’t think it’s right. Then again, teachers don’t get paid enough to deal with this sort of thing