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      You’re absolutely right, it IS ridiculous how many supposedly left-leaning people are willing and even eager to see a Trump presidency to ‘get one over on the shitlibs’.

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        The convention could always select a different democrat. Or it could have if the democrats hadn’t purposely put it after the ballot deadline in many states so Biden would already be on the ballot, before the convention that supposedly nominates him.

        It’s just not the either/or situation you’re looking for. It’s entirely possible to be so disgusted by the state of American politics that you just don’t vote. Or you vote third party. Your memes are having a negative impact at this point. Nobody who was on the fence is going to say, “Oh gosh I don’t want to be commie, I better vote Joe!”

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          The convention could always select a different democrat.

          Ah, yes, the good old shift from “NOT DEMOCRATIC ENOUGH” to “Fuck the voters, the DNC should nominate someone else!”

          Your memes are having a negative impact at this point.

          Then you should have no problem with them, since you’re convinced that neither side is worth supporting.

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            There is a side that could be worth supporting. But you’re making very hard to do so. Biden could win the election today by cutting off military aid to Israel. Instead he has goons out here threatening everyone. So far I’m not sure what I get for supporting him. You guys talk about plan 2025, but this kind of bullshit used to just be Republican stuff. So from where I’m sitting it looks like the DNC is giving up on Democracy too. It’s certainly giving up on listening to it’s voters.

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              Biden could win the election today by cutting off military aid to Israel.

              God, I love how detached from the reality of the American electorate this constantly repeated point is.

              Instead he has goons out here threatening everyone. So far I’m not sure what I get for supporting him.

              Threatening… everyone… by telling them exactly what the opposition is promising to do?

              God. What a horrible threat.

              You guys talk about plan 2025, but this kind of bullshit used to just be Republican stuff.

              Fucking what.

              So from where I’m sitting it looks like the DNC is giving up on Democracy too.

              … because it… isn’t having a meeting in a smoke-filled room to remove the current candidate without any input from the electorate?

              Or because it’s running against a fascist who has pledged to be a day-one dictator?

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                That’s a coherent paragraph. Each sentence is meant to support and provide context for the others. So taking it all out of context isn’t helpful in decoding it’s meaning.

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                    It is out of context. You’ll get plenty of explanations by just reading it as one text.

                    And I’m not the original commenter.

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      They are not team blue so they are team bad. The rules of football politics are simple

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        Team blue is team bad. It’s just that team red is even worse.

        But if we always follow this logic, we may as well allow them both to enshittify eternally, because reps will be just a bit more evil, and dems won’t have the incentive to improve, either.

        The question is: at which point should Dems be taught a lesson and how? Is current voting a good avenue for that?

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          The best time to plant a tree was yesterday. The next best time is today. As you point out, this doesn’t get better if we keep doing the same thing. So now is the time.

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      They want Donald to win so that China gains ground. They claim to love leftist economies but are simping for countries that produce plenty of billionaires.

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        The trade war with China might be a way to assert US dominance and squash the competition, but in the grand scheme of things, protectionist policies are very bad for the global economy and global progress.

        And leftists typically are internationalists, putting global efforts above national ones.

        So it’s not just love for China, even if Lemmygrad and Hexbear folks are really unhealthily obsessed with the country.

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          It’s not about the trade war, they specifically want the US to be destabilized with the corruption and unqualified nepotism/crony appointments.