• pluckytree@lemmy.nz
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    If you prefer not to drink dairy milk, then just skip milk entirely.

    As an aside, we really shouldn’t be eating food created in a lab. We’ve evolved as a species over hundreds of thousands of years to eat real food and we keep trying and failing to outsmart evolution. Trans fats, artificial sweeteners, processed food, and so on.

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        With a -8 vote, I’m not going to comment on eating real food ever again here. :)

        If you genuinely care and aren’t just baiting me, thinking you’ve entrapped me in an illogical box, here goes. I don’t have a problem fortifying cereal or flour, but they are both moderately to highly processed, so it’s generally better to eat less processed food. Salt is minimally processed and is an essential mineral, as is iodine. If you eat a good diet, you don’t need extra iodine, but I don’t think it’s harmful to add it. You can choose uniodised salt if you feel you don’t want extra iodine. Adding these things doesn’t make them more processed, it just makes them the same but with additives. :) Processing means you are taking a real food and removing nutrition from it in exchange for getting something in return like better shelf life or faster cooking times or some other convenience.

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      Milk is an end product. Precise fermentation is a better technology to produce it than cows.

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        Better how? Certainly not more nutritious but having some new feature that adds convenience or uniformity. Processing always has side effects, usually discovered decades later. Trans fats, artificial sweeteners, refined grains, the list goes on.

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    Key sentence here

    While bad news for dairy, the study found employment and economic output would be boosted in a scenario where farmers switched to growing crops, which would also result in significant reductions in emissions and nutrient loss.

    So I see this as a win-win-win.

    Another interesting point

    “I can’t see parents ever being happy putting lab-grown meat and milk in their kids’ lunchboxes… it’s just not gonna happen,” Federated Farmers dairy chair Richard McIntyre said.

    Mr McIntyre is engaging in wishful thinking here, if the lab-grown alternative is half the cost, I’m sure parents will be only too happy to put it in the lunch boxes of the kids…some of the crap that gets put in now is amazing…

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      Lab grown dairy protein will be sold wholesale long before it’s available as milk. We’ll be eating it as protein bars and chocolate, then processed cheese. Who’s going to know the difference? Who’s going to care?

      That guy’s talking shit and he knows it.

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    Alternative headline: Lab-grown milk substitutes a huge opportunity for NZ economy

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      Won’t China just make their own milk proteins, thereby decimating our dairy industry?

      This tech will happen. Hopefully we can put our lands to better use.

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        Like crops? From the article:

        While bad news for dairy, the study found employment and economic output would be boosted in a scenario where farmers switched to growing crops, which would also result in significant reductions in emissions and nutrient loss.

        But I also think of NZ produce as being more premium. There will likely be room for lots of players in a market like that.

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          NZ does not chase the premium market in any product though. We don’t sell premium cheese, premium milk, premium vegetables etc. We sell to the bidders in a global auction.

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            We absolutely sell in those markets. Grass fed beef and A2 milk are two examples. If you’ve been overseas, you can look for “New Zealand” on menus to see what’s considered higher quality than a commodity.

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                I don’t know, but I don’t think it matters. It’s easy to switch to if your main market is taken up from lab milk, A2 and Fontera actually fought each other as Fonterra blocked them from encouraging farmers to breed A2 cows. If needed we could solve that.

                But the point was you said we don’t sell premium products which isn’t true at all. And when lab milk takes over the bulk of dairy, there will still be global auctions for “real” cow milk, because there will still be a market for it.

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                  I don’t know, but I don’t think it matters.

                  I think it does matter. It’s illustrative of our market strategy as a nation.

                  But the point was you said we don’t sell premium products which isn’t true at all. And when lab milk takes over the bulk of dairy, there will still be global auctions for “real” cow milk, because there will still be a market for it.

                  Of course there will be a market. Just like there is a market today for V8 sedans. It’s just the market is really small.