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It’s evidence that supports vegan causes. A tool for the vegan activist’s toolbox. In particular, environmental vegans benefit when the highest climate footprint animal (cows) are shown to have intelligence. Intelligence is a factor in assessing animal welfare and suffering. That is why it is posted in c/vegan.
(edit) note as well that when dealing with vegan-hostile meat eaters, this is the kind of story that you can present without attaching politics to it. Just show them and say “isn’t it cool that this cow figured out how to scratch her back”, and leave it there. There’s nothing controversial about that. It just drops it into their mind that there is some intelligence they did not know about. Let them realise for themselves what it implies.
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A small amount of intelligence goes a long way. If you have the intelligence of a plant, you’ll have a hard time getting compassion. If I end up as a vegetable with no brain activity or chance of recovery, pull my life support plug please.
It surprises how much of a surprise this is to everyone.
The BBC article titled “Cow astonishes scientists” said “However, despite about 10,000 years of humans living alongside cattle, this is the first time scientists have documented a cow using a tool.”
Veronika: Not sure if they’re taking a pic of me because i look so cute or … Nah, i don’t care, this feels so good!

I should have posted about these the first-time I posted here-
Years ago, I rescued a small, stocky & Black & White kitten, I am also the one that feeds all animals, in our household. Surprisingly & not seen since or before from the cats (or dogs) I care for, behavior was completely learned on his own, when given the spoon (that dished-out the animals’ wet foods) & finished licking the first side, then he starts flipping the spoon on the other side, using only either one of his front paws, not just for one-paw. I keep encouraging the former wild, adult & orange Tabby cat (loves to eat, so much so had to be put on a restricting food intake diet) to learn the behavior, but I eventually have to flip the spoon over. Maybe, I should just never flip over the spoon?
The former wild, adult & orange Tabby cat has completely learned on his own a other behavior- with doors with the long & straight door handles, he just jumps & hangs his 11-Lbs. of weight on the door handles, until the doors open. We had to change our inside the house doors’ handles to only round door handles. But when we changed the doors to the outside to Hurricane doors, they only offered the doors handles that are long & straight.If we do not lock those doors, the cat escapes.
If that was not bad enough the former wild cat has figured-out whom are easy people to get past, where to hide & the timing of when to charging all the open doors.
I recall seeing videos of cats that are quite sneaky, performing ninja-gymnastics to operate doors. They wait until no humans are around and go and do something the owner doesn’t like. In some cases owners took care to ensure a cat could not access whatever area was banned only to discover after installing surveillance videos that the cat can pull off some amazing feats when no one is around – and close the door to conceal their mischief.
I have another super sweet &.I am his only person/Being, after his huge in stature brother died, but he still uses his pee & poo on the floors & rugs. Sometimes, I think he is mad about not getting what he wants from me.
Sounds like marking, which I think only happens if the cat is in competition with another animal for territory.
Could be, except he is the most harmless cat I have ever known & the other cat has his favorite person. When he appears to be aggressive, it is by appearing to make innocent mistakes, like walking into another animals personal space.
That was AWESOME, assuming it was learned by herself.
I am sorry, but is the world we live in, especially because I live in South Florida, USA.BLANKING only have keyboard screen option, on this tablet, sorry.
It was mentioned in a BBC coverage of this that other cows have been seen using tree branches to do the same.
I rarely watch BBC & that never made into The USA media I watched. Do have a link?
I heard it OTA, but this is probably it:
What does OTA mean?
I guess that is enough to believe, was in the original article too. I only saw it through 1st. ‘F S’s ‘France24’ & ABC’s Evening News, extremely low bar for quality, so never mentioned the practice &/use of sticks-branches. That was my original reaction, Thanks for reassuring me & helping to correct that.
OTA = over the air
I’m not sure it’s solid info that other cows used sticks. It was quickly mentioned… I think he said something like “i think other cows have used twigs”… or something that I vaguely thought sounded uncertain. Unfortunately I cannot hit rewind on my radio tuner. And I don’t have a good enough connection to grab online streams.
Thank you, no problem.
Why does it matter if she learned it herself?
If a member from our species taught her how to use it, then it is less higher level thinking involved.


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