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    We have not given the DNC more than 48 senate seats in over 13 years. We collectively haven’t given them power. We need to give them power to create any progress at all.

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      They run their own party. They can ban PAC funding whenever they want. If they wanted to reject PAC money there is nothing stopping them. Plenty of Dems have run and won without it. If they legitimately think it’s a bad thing they can do something about it right now.

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        Your solution is to just defund the campaigns of only Democrats? Thats how you’re going to defeat Republicans?

        You’ve gotta be astroturfing or some shit.

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          Obama did no PACs in 08. AOC and even Kamala ended up rejecting PAC money. 52 sitting reps ran a PAC free campaign. My solution is to actually have a coherent platform. If we believe PAC money is compromising, why should we elect people we believe to be compromised? People have proven PAC free campaigns can be done, often by mobilizing grassroots support. The thing about elections is that money doesn’t actually win them, votes do. Candidates that engage with the people they represent can drum up support in the form of votes, regardless of ad spend.

          People have come to believe the Dems don’t actually believe in the things they supposedly support. I think they’d gain a lot of traction if they actually committed to a single ideal. Corpos are now all in on the republicans anyway. Now would be a great time to make rejection of PAC money a core part of the party. People want to vote for people who are honest about their beliefs. It’s hard to believe they care about getting money out of politics when they’re beneficiaries of PACs too. Let’s see them put their money where their mouth is. Or literally on any of their positions since they’re willing to cave for anything, happy Charlie Kirk day of remembrance.

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            You’re mad that we haven’t had any progress or the DNC passing any of their stated goals, lately?

            WE HAVE NOT ELECTED MORE THAN 48 DNC IN OVER 13 YEARS. CURRENTLY ONLY 45.

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              I never said I was mad, much less than I was mad that they didn’t pass anything. I said people don’t believe they support their stated goals. My Democratic rep, who I voted for, voted in favor for the Charlie Kirk day of remembrance and are currently soliciting donations to help “fight fascism.” If you don’t see the inherent contradiction in claiming to fight fascism while voting to honor a propagandist mouthpiece for the fascists, there’s nothing I can do to help you. It’s one thing to be unable to garner support for policies I want, it’s another thing completely to openly capitulate.

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                I also think Charlie Kirk was a piece of shit nazi, and contacted my reps telling them not to honor him, but the DNC stance on Charlie Kirk really just boils down to “this action was wrong and political violence needs to be avoided” which kind of makes sense given their vulnerability in the tense political and socioeconomic climate we live in.

                You have no reason to think they won’t pass the laws they say they will.