• cobysev@lemmy.world
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    When those services are the only place with a license to provide the content you want, and your choice is to either suck it up and deal with their enshittification, or pirate the media you want… guess which option is the preferred choice?

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      Don’t forget about media you already bought being limited, deauthenticated, or removed completely.

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          Blu-ray disks might last from 5 to 20 years, depending on quality. You’d better start backing them up if you care about your collection.

          Oh, wait… that also counts as piracy, apparently. Tough luck, I suppose. 🤷‍♂️

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            My 300+ discs collection is akready 10 years old. No disc has failed yet. Most modern Blue-ray discs have a lifespan of up to 150 years. You’re probably thinking of writable discs that have a lower lifespan.

            A digital backup of my own discs that I’ve purchased is not piracy in many countries. It’s legal to do that for personal use. Besides, there is no moral argument against it. You already payed for your time you’re going to enjoy it.

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              So buying one ticket to Disney world means I get to go back whenever I want right?

              Do you not realize you just gave a justification for piracy?

              Do you care about moral reasoning or just what is legal where you currently are?

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                So buying one ticket to Disney world means I get to go back whenever I want right?

                This totally depends on the ToS of the ticket issuer. It’s his right to decid that for you because he’s providing the product not you. What is the point you’re trying to make?

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                  This totally depends on the ToS of the ticket issuer. It’s his right to decid that for you

                  This logic is exactly what Disney is arguing gives them a right to murder your loved ones without consequences just because you once used one of their services.

                  The point is that it’s evidently absurd, and more often than not outright monstrous.

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      Perhaps not a popular approach, but I will simply watch less or not at all (mainly due to ads). There are other ways to entertain yourself. Throw away your TV!

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        Torrents have no ads. And better quality. And are easier to find, watch, download, and archive. Much more convenient in every way.

        Haven’t watched TV in over a decade either. Or seen an ad. Still watch any show or movie I want to.

        As Gabe Newell put it (and demonstrated with Steam), piracy is a service problem.

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      They are not the only place. There are thousands of ways to legally obtain the content you want to enjoy. Blue-ray is one of countless others.

      Not paying anything is worse in any case. The content and services will get even worse over time if more people start pirating stuff. The only way to change that is to vote with your wallet. Not paying does not entitle you to have an opinion and complain.

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        Not everything is on physical media.

        Not paying does not entitle you to have an opinion and complain.

        No, free will entitles that.

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        I wish there were. I have a huge DVD collection (2000+), and yet now it’s borderline impossible for me to find a DVD/Blueray for the stuff I want. Shops have shelves with maybe 100 blockbusters at most. It’s also impossible to buy the single product online, you can “rent” it, but you can’t buy it in a way that you can watch it with whatever device I want, with whatever tool I choose and without an internet connection.

        This is my main beef with streaming services, you are permanently renting and therefore depending on the whim of the distributor (which in 90% of the cases now is also the maker).

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          You can find Blue-rays to buy online of pretty much every movie in existance. 99% of them have all the extras too like documentation and interviews.

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            It depends on location. Getting a disc shipped from the other side of the world, paying 20 bucks + shipping for each movie in not sustainable.

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        Ah the false implication that if we don’t pay then things won’t get done. That’s a fallacy. People will always make content, they only stop if they need to work to survive and have no time. If they are paid for creating, they will create even more. If they are paid to create what they are told they won’t be able to create what they would want to.

        When content is controlled and a company has the right to decide what and when and how something is created that’s when content and services get worse over time. Disney is a huge money making machine based on monopolistically controlling content, stories, characters… Disney’s services and products will only get worse no matter who pays or doesn’t, despite the love and effort put by the workers, because decisions are made based on corporate greed and maximising revenue. No one but Disney can create a marvel movie, if I would, I’d get sued into oblivion.