I use Magisk but I have also heard about APatch or KernelSU. What do you use and what are the benefits of it?
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Magisk is a complete platform that focuses on hiding “unauthorized” modifications from the rest of the system. You can add any mods as a virtual overlay, it supports plugins etc. Root is only one of its benefits.
I look forward to Australians answering that one…
Yep as soon as I saw the title I did a double take… but it’s 7am here and I cbf thinking of a clever answer so early in the morning
Just plug it in. If it doesn’t work, unplug it and plug it in again. You might have to repeat this 1023 times before the system is successfully rooted.
I haven’t felt the need to root custom roms for some time (especially not something like GrapheneOS, for example)
Here are things I’m currently using root for on LineageOS:
- System-wide adblocking (hosts file with Adaway). Yes, there’s DNS-based adblocking, but sometimes that can be slow or not play nice with public wifi networks.
- Battery management. I use AccA to limit my battery capacity and charge rate to keep it from wearing out. I might not care as much if the battery was easy to replace.
- File management, as there’s an increasing amount of the filesystem blocked off without it.
- App + data backups with Neo Backup.
I’ll plug my comment in here about stuff I do with root: https://mander.xyz/comment/11531416
Fair, but I guess my point was I haven’t personally needed those things in some time. At least, not enough to warrant exposing myself to vulnerability like before. Ad blocking especially, since you can do that via VPN or by using your VPN slot if you don’t want to use something like pihole. App + data backups are built into many custom roms as well, including the one I use (graphene).
exposing myself to vulnerability
Everyone’s security and convenience/feature needs are different of course. There is often a tradeoff. The way I see it, I wouldn’t give up having admin access on my PC for security, so why would I give it up on my phone?
Absolutely, that’s what I’m saying, that I personally have not needed root and the trade offs are no longer worth it for my case.
Does Neo backup work well? Kinda reminds me of Titanium Backup.
Yes, it’s my main back up app. (The latest update kinda broke it though, I think first time happening, but the issue was spotted and will be fixed.) The only big limitation (which might have been fixed actually) is backing up and restoring app on work profile (anything other than user0).
For work profile apps, I use DataBackup.
Yes. There’s the occasional app it won’t back up and restore correctly (Signal is a big one; use its own chat backup feature), but overall it’s great.
I use root for the same things except for the battery management one.
The benefit to longevity from limiting battery charge even a little bit is pretty substantial. I recommend it to most people with the technical ability to do it.
Magisk had some incompatibility issues with lsposed-zygisk, which nearly resulted in losing my phone in a permanent bootloop, but I fixed it by flashing some images.
I now use Apatch on my Mi 10, running xiaomi.eu HyperOS 1
PS. I even tried KSU, by compiling a kernel for my phone after watching a ~40minute video on Portuguese with english automated subtitles, lol. Apatch has a much smoother procedure than that and kinda has the benefits of KSU.
