• cygnus@lemmy.ca
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    It’s a legitimate complaint. In my part of Canada we have several pride parades led by pro-Palestinian groups, which is absurd not only because there are no Palestinians in it, but because nearly everybody in the parade would be persecuted in Palestine. A trans rights group I’ve been involved in for a while had a faction break away because we weren’t pro-Palestine enough (whatever that means).

    I support the creation of a Palestinian state, but queer support of that cause must come with support of queer people in Palestine, rather than pretending they don’t exist.

    Edit: also, nice nose on that comic. Time to check OP’s post history…

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      Palestinians are actively being exterminated in a genocide. Their right to life should not be contingent on anything. Neither should one’s opposition to genocide.

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        Did you reply to the wrong person? Because this doesn’t appear to have anything to do with what I said.

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          You said that queer support of a Palestinian state should be contingent on their tolerance of gayness.

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        The status of queer people in Palestine has nothing to do with Israel. There is absolutely nothing preventing Palestinians from stopping their persecution of their queer brothers and sisters. Deflections like yours are exactly part of the problem - you are throwing queer Palestinians under the bus just to fuel your crusade against Israel. What you are doing is actively harmful to LGBTQ+ rights.

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    Sadly, no need to go that far: black people forced to live in the “Al abeed” neighborhood (i will let you search what it means). Being jew or white foreigner makes you a target.

    This is how their society evolved on their own, they have not been forced onto this path of intolerance… They could have rejected Hamas and Iran influence a long time ago. They did not…

    Yeah sure, what is happening is sad, mainly for the kids. But if i had to choose between stopping this shit show or saving one child from infantile cancer, i would choose the child. And if god exists (how ironic it would be), he would too.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1720057376823234752

    People telling her to shut up are not Hamas, but regular palestinian…

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      Would you apply this same logic of your own country or is it just because it’s far away and maybe you don’t care so much for brown people?

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      To me, it sounds like you are expressing that you think that the “regular” Palestinians are supportive of Hamas.

      Have you considered that they tell her to shut up because they don’t want her to make herself the target of Hamas?

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        Have you considered that if most of palestinian dont want Hamas they could stop/kill them easily? Two millions people against maybe maximum 10 000… Moreover they know who they are and where they hide (among the population)

        Like in Russia, most are supportive of this terrorist state…

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    For those out of the loop, Gaza still persecutes lgbtq people, up to 10 years in jail per “incident” of having queer sex.

    Theres also been a few vigilante murders of lgbtq people.

    Just because they massacred 1200 people and started a war they couldnt finish does not mean that theyre nice people.

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        Yes, I think we shouldnt kill 7 million Jews. Apparently that makes me a sociopath according to a rando on lemmy

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          Nobody is talking about killing 7 million Jews. Your hypothetical feelings of victimhood is being used to justify an actual genocide.

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            What do you think happens to the people of Israel if they simply give up?

            Hint: Gaza is 99% Sunni Muslim for a reason.

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              I’d like to jump in and ask a genuine counter question:

              • What do you believe is the cause of Hamas’ existence?
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                  Or maybe it’s the ethnic cleansing of Palestine in 1948 by Europeans and the subsequent 76 years of colonial apartheid and brutality.

                  Hamas is literally an Arabic acronym for “the party of resistance”

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      The meme is about generalising and grouping all Gazans under the same labels to justify the genocide. It’s racist and covers up their struggle.

      There LGBTQ Gazans, there are handicapped Gazans, there are racist Gazans, there are homophobic Gazans, there are straight Gazans, etc.

      They’re human beings with their flaws and qualities, and regardless of their views, they shouldn’t endure whatever the fuck Israel is doing to them. Nobody should, ever.