I’m not blaming anything. I’m well aware what an average semi attractive woman wants from a man. I will never be those things. That’s not me, I never cared about being those things.
You’re a minority, women want most of the time chatting and socially active strong men able to carry a conversation, manly enough to create a home and have a decent amount of money but delicate enough to be romantic. I can’t do any of those things. Admit it, that’s the majority of women.
I’ve never been in a relationship. I know this by proxy, average, heard things, data. You don’t need to be in a relationship to notice these things dude. Again, if the requirements for a relationship would be as low as the other dude says they were, then people like me wouldn’t exist.
So is your relationship abstinence due to striking out because your personality or idea of relationships doesn’t fit the norm and you can’t find a suitable partner, or has your perception of relationships kept you from pursuing relationships entirely?
You basically asked the same thing again. I’m not a good candidate, I don’t have a job and when I had one was low income, I’m not social at all, i hate going out to do fun stuff, I don’t want to engage or entangle with “her family”, I don’t drive or own a car, I don’t have my own place, I’m not physically strong or good looking and I don’t care about being it. I’m not charming or romantic and hate conversations. Would you date me if I you were a girl? No right? That’s my point.
I didn’t ask the same question, and you avoided answering mine which was: have you tried or have you just considered yourself a failure?
I became friends with a guy like you, and I had money so I took him places and paid for things because we had fun together. Your situation isn’t hopeless, but your attitude is. Yes, if you want to have a relationship, you do have to be personable because that’s the only way someone would want to hang out with you. You listed all the negative things about your situation but nothing about your hobbies, what you like to do. Okay, you don’t like to “go out and have fun” but do you like to stay in and have fun? My friend and I often played video games together, is that an option?
There are detriments on your list that sound negative not only to a potential partner, but to you. Do you want to have a job? Do you want to have your own place? If so, what’s stopping you? I know you were reading that ex-incel post, so you know many people started by focusing on what they wanted to improve in their lives and forgetting about relationships. You are in a negative place, and I will bet that it’s not just about relationships but about yourself.
Btw, my friend is in a poly relationship now, got his GED, moved to his own place, went to trade school, and works at a news station. The most important thing is he is more confident, comfortable with himself as he is, and happy. It’s not impossible, but you do have to do the work.
You’ll probably have an angry response to this, but I don’t want anyone to think they are a lost cause because that’s what their brain is saying and how society makes them feel, so I just wanted to say something.
Edit: Just to answer your question: I can not say if I would want to date you because I don’t know you. All you talked about was your life situation, not your personality: likes, hobbies, tastes in music, etc. Being compatible in those things would help me determine that.
Angry? I’m just saying the truth. I like videogames but that’s hardly anything majority of women like, majority haven’t even playing anything in their lives. And honestly no, I don’t want to “improve” or change myself into being another person. I dunno what ged is, I’m guessing it’s studies, I had only make it up to middle school. You think I’m a failure, I don’t care.
This is an incel attitude. The notion that “all women” want any single thing, let alone this caricature is gross. It’s insulting to women and men alike, and betrays that your mindset is immature, ill-informed, and toxic.
Doubt it. Every single person who’s seen you talk in this thread has agreed. That should be your trigger to say “I wonder why that is”. Or ignore the outside world, but then why post here?
women want most of the time chatting and socially active strong men able to carry a conversation, manly enough to create a home and have a decent amount of money but delicate enough to be romantic.
That is also what I thought. And I was mostly wrong.
Everyone is unique. Stereotypes usually exist for reasons, but exceptions are much more common than I realized.
I am, genuinely, several of those things, at least a small fraction of the time.
But that’s not my secret.
I’ll share my key attributes that really worked:
My current partner lived in a shitty situation. Physically shitty. I fixed a bunch of gaps in the walls with a can a “great stuff”. We were just friends at the time, and I wasn’t looking for anything. It’s just something I knew how to do, and my friend’s friend (now my long term partner) needed it done. I was fucking clueless how much this meant to them, at the time.
Presently, how I maintain my relationship:
I’m sometimes really deeply shitty at talking to people, so I usually use few words and choose them carefully. My (valid) fear of fucking up is a kind of super power for avoiding dumb partner fights.
I still fix stuff. I’m not afraid of getting dirty, and YouTube academy has been very good to me.
I ask questions during any kind of physical interaction. Mainly “do you want to be touched there?” and “How does that feel?”
I still follow a strict budget, even though I now make good money. I’ve heard money fights are a big thing, but making and mostly sticking to a written budget has let me dodge that bullet.
Stereotype exist because it’s a reality. You being lucky has nothing to do with that. I could try to do what you had done 50 times without any results.
I’m not blaming anything. I’m well aware what an average semi attractive woman wants from a man. I will never be those things. That’s not me, I never cared about being those things.
Before I was in a relationship, I was 100% wrong about what “those things” actually are, for what that’s worth.
You’re a minority, women want most of the time chatting and socially active strong men able to carry a conversation, manly enough to create a home and have a decent amount of money but delicate enough to be romantic. I can’t do any of those things. Admit it, that’s the majority of women.
So, have you been in past relationships where you learned this or from some sort of observation (going on dates for example)?
I’ve never been in a relationship. I know this by proxy, average, heard things, data. You don’t need to be in a relationship to notice these things dude. Again, if the requirements for a relationship would be as low as the other dude says they were, then people like me wouldn’t exist.
So is your relationship abstinence due to striking out because your personality or idea of relationships doesn’t fit the norm and you can’t find a suitable partner, or has your perception of relationships kept you from pursuing relationships entirely?
You basically asked the same thing again. I’m not a good candidate, I don’t have a job and when I had one was low income, I’m not social at all, i hate going out to do fun stuff, I don’t want to engage or entangle with “her family”, I don’t drive or own a car, I don’t have my own place, I’m not physically strong or good looking and I don’t care about being it. I’m not charming or romantic and hate conversations. Would you date me if I you were a girl? No right? That’s my point.
I didn’t ask the same question, and you avoided answering mine which was: have you tried or have you just considered yourself a failure?
I became friends with a guy like you, and I had money so I took him places and paid for things because we had fun together. Your situation isn’t hopeless, but your attitude is. Yes, if you want to have a relationship, you do have to be personable because that’s the only way someone would want to hang out with you. You listed all the negative things about your situation but nothing about your hobbies, what you like to do. Okay, you don’t like to “go out and have fun” but do you like to stay in and have fun? My friend and I often played video games together, is that an option?
There are detriments on your list that sound negative not only to a potential partner, but to you. Do you want to have a job? Do you want to have your own place? If so, what’s stopping you? I know you were reading that ex-incel post, so you know many people started by focusing on what they wanted to improve in their lives and forgetting about relationships. You are in a negative place, and I will bet that it’s not just about relationships but about yourself.
Btw, my friend is in a poly relationship now, got his GED, moved to his own place, went to trade school, and works at a news station. The most important thing is he is more confident, comfortable with himself as he is, and happy. It’s not impossible, but you do have to do the work.
You’ll probably have an angry response to this, but I don’t want anyone to think they are a lost cause because that’s what their brain is saying and how society makes them feel, so I just wanted to say something.
Edit: Just to answer your question: I can not say if I would want to date you because I don’t know you. All you talked about was your life situation, not your personality: likes, hobbies, tastes in music, etc. Being compatible in those things would help me determine that.
Angry? I’m just saying the truth. I like videogames but that’s hardly anything majority of women like, majority haven’t even playing anything in their lives. And honestly no, I don’t want to “improve” or change myself into being another person. I dunno what ged is, I’m guessing it’s studies, I had only make it up to middle school. You think I’m a failure, I don’t care.
This is an incel attitude. The notion that “all women” want any single thing, let alone this caricature is gross. It’s insulting to women and men alike, and betrays that your mindset is immature, ill-informed, and toxic.
See, that’s what i’m saying.
You didn’t said anything. Again if what you had said was the truth then I wouldn’t be single.
This is exactly what people are referring to when they say you sound like an incel, fyi
Again. Incorrect
Doubt it. Every single person who’s seen you talk in this thread has agreed. That should be your trigger to say “I wonder why that is”. Or ignore the outside world, but then why post here?
That is also what I thought. And I was mostly wrong.
Everyone is unique. Stereotypes usually exist for reasons, but exceptions are much more common than I realized.
I am, genuinely, several of those things, at least a small fraction of the time.
But that’s not my secret.
I’ll share my key attributes that really worked:
Presently, how I maintain my relationship:
Stereotype exist because it’s a reality. You being lucky has nothing to do with that. I could try to do what you had done 50 times without any results.