• DaleGribble88@programming.dev
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    3 months ago

    So, I was right that you didn’t watch the video, and instead of watching the video, you STILL did not watch the video. And you STILL don’t know what the core of the video is about because AI is shit at summarizing stuff like this. It wants to present a list of talking points, but does not know how to emphasize important parts or highlight which parts were focused on the longest.

    I don’t have the time to debunk all of this gish-gallop. The main points are that what you identified as “If this was the core of the video, it’d be grand” and “More good stuff” - IS the core of the video - taking up, a roughly estimated, 15 minutes of the 21-minute video runtime. Your speculation that “The solution is not to vote for Biden/Harris” is incorrect, as the actual call to action was to be more active in Democratic primaries. (Specifically calls out George Ladimer vs Jamal Bowman in New York as an example).

    Honestly? If this video was being made in 1995 or 2004, it’d be great.

    Yeah, pretty much exactly what I said in my original comment. Most of this video is providing historical context and explaining how the modern American political-economic system works.

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      3 months ago

      You almost sold me on the value of reading the whole transcript over, and seeing what I thought of it, to see if there’s something to what you were saying. I mean, that’s not at all what a “Gish Gallop” is, but you’re not wholly off base on it being maybe off base for me to read the bullet point transcript and assume that GPT got the whole thing perfectly right.

      So, I read the first paragraph of the real transcript.

      Way 2024 is an election year, and unfortunately for Biden, his approval rating is in the toilet. I won’t go through his whole track record, but just to refresh your memory, Biden promised a $15 minimum wage and didn’t deliver. He promised to enshrine the federal right to abortion and didn’t do that either. He promised to cancel about $10,000 of student debt per person and ultimately came in way under that number. And then, of course, you have the recent stuff with the southern border where Biden’s being far more xenophobic and draconian than most Republicans, even after calling Trump out for the same thing and promising to put a stop to the border wall, which he also didn’t do. You get the picture. But politicians never keep their promises, so no one’s really surprised. Even now, as we’re hearing the Biden campaign make basically the same promises, it’s because, trust me, this time is going to be totally different. They just needed more time. Now that he’s on the campaign trail, Biden is mostly pinning the blame for this sort of stuff on Republicans. It’s time to rally every last Democratic voter behind him, and with a solidly Republican House and a sort of blue Senate at the moment, the reason things like that border bill didn’t get through was because it was blocked by a strong Republican opposition. So it makes sense that Biden is really keen on making them look like obstructionists. But that really doesn’t explain all the broken promises.

      I think we’re done here.

      If you want, you could ask Linkerbaan what country they’re from and why they have so much specific interest in US politics. I sort of get why they interpret it as an attack, but it doesn’t really have to be – it’s more of just a curiosity question, and you can also sort of get, presumably, why someone might be interested in the answer to the question.

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        3 months ago

        So, to be clear, after 3 highly confrontational comments about how bad the contents of the video are, you STILL have not watched it? I think you are right, we are done here. This was such a weird pro-ignorance hill to die on.

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          Have fun with your propaganda, okay? I hope your disinformation videos go really, really well.

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            3 months ago

            Ok, will do! You have fun ignoring facts that are contradictory to your worldview. At least we agree that it was “unfair for [you] to get into too much of a back and forth about the video without having any idea what’s in it.”