• puppy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      101
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Contender? He should’ve been the president in 2016. Democrats had to fuck that up. Trump won mostly because people hated Hilary.

      • snooggums@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        47
        ·
        2 months ago

        Hilary won the popular vote by almost 3 million because most people liked her.

        She lost the electoral college vote because of a few really close states.

        • puppy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          53
          ·
          2 months ago

          Yeah, against a playboy who didn’t have any political experience or acumen whatsoever. This should’ve been a landslide victory for dems. I stand by what I said, Trump won because it was Hilary he was up against. If it were Bernie, Trump wouldn’t have had a chance.

          • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            32
            ·
            2 months ago

            Even my dad, a blue collar welder in his late 60s, was totally on the Bernie train in 2016. If that doesn’t tell you anything about how Bernie could have done, I don’t know what will.

            • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              7
              ·
              2 months ago

              I have talked to several Trump voters that love Bernie. I mean it shows that they don’t pay any attention to policy or reality even, but I think it shows that Bernie would have won.

              • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                2 months ago

                The funny part is he wasn’t even a Trump voter, he’s really liberal for his upbringing and occupation; he was happy with Obama in 2008 too.

        • marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          2 months ago

          A few states that were really close because her campaign was up against a social-media heavy campaign that weaponized misinformation, and didn’t know how to respond.

        • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          2 months ago

          She lost the electoral college because she rigged the primary.

          In retrospect the margin was so thin that if she’d only modestly pissed off Sanders voters she would have won.

      • Xanis@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        Nah, Hilary was a fine choice despite her own personal and political issues. Despite not preferring her, I am rather confident that she would have not made a bad President. Perhaps not a good one, just also not a bad one.

        Fucking shame what happened. Oi, Chaps! I say we bloody up this wanker with a side o’ voting!

        Sorry, channeling my stereotypical inner mocking British man.

        Edit: I stand by what I said unless given compelling reasons to not do so. Maybe I’m remembering things incorrectly. It’s been awhile. Make a case, don’t care if it’s a legitimate link. I’m happy to do a learn.

      • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        He wasn’t a Democratic Party member in 2016. He caucused and partnership with them but if he’s not going to be in the party, nobody should be surprised that he’s not the parties pick or preference. He didn’t officially join them until 2019. The circumstances might not have worked but be real the Democrats didn’t fuck it up in 2016.