Meanwhile leftists: “Make sure you don’t vote in a way that might keep actual fascists from power. Better the fascists win than people who will make things only mildly better!”
Ah, so rather than go against Trump’s bad policy and do something actually GOOD for our fellow human beings, we need to stick to this compromise position where we do something almost as bad as him? Because we are more worried about losing pro genocide voters than we are about an actual genocide, or something?
I hope that you can see how the “liberal” position on this is fucking disgusting
Vote Biden, obviously. His Gaza policy is still absolute dog shit. It is not complicated and pretending that anyone criticising him for it is voting for trump is dumb as fuck
Meanwhile leftists: “Make sure you don’t vote in a way that might keep actual fascists from power. Better the fascists win than people who will make things only mildly better
You: Reasons to not vote for the candidate opposing the fascists. Arguing with anyone suggesting voting against the fascists. Swerve completely the point about how much WORSE for Gaza and the rest of the Palestinians Trump would be.
Me: Thanks leftists. /s
You claim to want to make things better for Gaza, but not if it involves putting a mark in a box, because in your view that would be going TOO FAR and going against EVERY principle you ever held dear.
You talk such a big game about Gaza and fascism, but you wouldn’t stoop so low as to actually fucking vote on this issue. No, it’s much more important to take up the crusade against the centrists. Thanks leftists. Great help you were in preventing the fascists from taking over the most powerful country in the world.
Grow up and live in the real world. It sucks. Please try much harder to not make it worse.
No because then I would have helped trump lead america in to fascism. If you don’t think through the consequences of your actions, you get bad outcomes. Not voting for the person opposing trump leads to the worst possible outcome. It’s not rocket science.
I am not superior, I just think that “who should we vote for?” is a question for the ballot box and “what should we do?” is a more important question for the rest of the time.
Historically, when has voting ever stopped fascism? Do you have any historical knowledge of fascism, where you think you can stop it simply through the electoral process?
Your question is actually misleading. What you mean is “when did voting cause a fascist regime to hand over power peacefully”, but what’s not documented well in the history books is how many times a far right party lost an election, didn’t get their hands on real power and didn’t become a regime. The answer to the two questions is
Not very often. One they’re in power is usually too late and an awful lot of lives, usually those of people in marginalised groups, are lost unnecessarily. Fascists rarely give way to popular opinion once they’re in power.
EVERY time a far right party with plans to dismantle opposition loses an election, you prevent a fascist regime from getting started.
What’s better? Wait till it happens and it gets so bad that people take up arms and even more death occurs to start the long road back to peaceful transfer of power or vote it away before it starts?
You can help to prevent this, but no, you’re claiming to care and hinting that you might be prepared to do something drastic, but if it comes down to putting a mark in a box, oh no, that’s asking too much. You’re completely deceiving yourself if you believe what you’re saying.
Your question is actually misleading. What you mean is “when did voting cause a fascist regime to hand over power peacefully”, but what’s not documented well in the history books is how many times a far right party lost an election, didn’t get their hands on real power and didn’t become a regime.
No, that’s not what I mean. America has a fascist problem, even if Biden wins fascism is still coming. I am directly asking you when fascism was stopped by voting against a fascist threat.
EVERY time a far right party with plans to dismantle opposition loses an election, you prevent a fascist regime from getting started.
No, this is historically inaaccurate, hilariously so. The Nazis took power without being elected.
What’s better? Wait till it happens and it gets so bad that people take up arms and even more death occurs to start the long road back to peaceful transfer of power or vote it away before it starts?
You can’t “vote it away,” fascists don’t care about electoral results. They sieze power. Voting for Biden slows the descent into fascism but does nothing to the core reasons why it exists, ie decaying Capitalism and dying Imperialism.
You can help to prevent this, but no, you’re claiming to care and hinting that you might be prepared to do something drastic, but if it comes down to putting a mark in a box, oh no, that’s asking too much. You’re completely deceiving yourself if you believe what you’re saying.
I’m actually suggesting organizing, touching grass, and building dual power. I do plan on voting, I myself am undecided. If the Democrats manage to completely reverse their genocidal tendencies and take a firm Anticapitalist stance, I would probably vote for them, but as it stands that just kicks the problem down the road while conditions continue to worsen.
Even if your points were correct, it’s an absurd conclusion to draw: voting mighn’t keep them out of power in the long so don’t try now? How stupid is that advice? Very.
No, this is historically inaaccurate, hilariously so. The Nazis took power without being elected.
The Nazi party came to hold the reigns of government by winning the largest number of seats in a parliamentary election. (In Europe coalition government is more common than in the USA.) No power, no regime.
that just kicks the problem down the road
For four years. Better than allowing it to happen this year!
Maybe we can kick the can down the road long enough for the Republican party to realise that cristofascism isn’t popular and if they want power ever again they’d better drop it.
What do the fascists want? People who care to stay home on election day or vote for everyone except the one that beat trump last time. What are you advocating? The same course of action. Literally the same.
Meanwhile leftists: “Make sure you don’t vote in a way that might keep actual fascists from power. Better the fascists win than people who will make things only mildly better!”
Exterminating Gazans makes things better?
Maybe read the meme again.
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Ah, so rather than go against Trump’s bad policy and do something actually GOOD for our fellow human beings, we need to stick to this compromise position where we do something almost as bad as him? Because we are more worried about losing pro genocide voters than we are about an actual genocide, or something?
I hope that you can see how the “liberal” position on this is fucking disgusting
Hello to fascism and Trump’s final solution to the Palestine question, it is! Got it!
Vote Biden, obviously. His Gaza policy is still absolute dog shit. It is not complicated and pretending that anyone criticising him for it is voting for trump is dumb as fuck
Me:
You: Reasons to not vote for the candidate opposing the fascists. Arguing with anyone suggesting voting against the fascists. Swerve completely the point about how much WORSE for Gaza and the rest of the Palestinians Trump would be.
Me: Thanks leftists. /s
You claim to want to make things better for Gaza, but not if it involves putting a mark in a box, because in your view that would be going TOO FAR and going against EVERY principle you ever held dear.
You talk such a big game about Gaza and fascism, but you wouldn’t stoop so low as to actually fucking vote on this issue. No, it’s much more important to take up the crusade against the centrists. Thanks leftists. Great help you were in preventing the fascists from taking over the most powerful country in the world.
Grow up and live in the real world. It sucks. Please try much harder to not make it worse.
The first two words in my last response were “Vote Biden” sooooooooo…
Sorry, yes, but it winds me up when people who claim to care about Gaza only criticise Biden and ignore Trump’s vocal support for Israel’s actions.
Cool, so you’ll vote for Claudia De La Cruz of the Party for Socialism and Liberation? She’s antifascist and anti-genocide, unlike Biden and Trump.
No because then I would have helped trump lead america in to fascism. If you don’t think through the consequences of your actions, you get bad outcomes. Not voting for the person opposing trump leads to the worst possible outcome. It’s not rocket science.
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I am not superior, I just think that “who should we vote for?” is a question for the ballot box and “what should we do?” is a more important question for the rest of the time.
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When has voting kept fascists from power?
This coming November. So you pretend that stopping fascists is important to you, but you’re not prepared to even put a mark in a box to stop it.
When has voting ever stopped fascism?
This coming November. If you cared even a tiny little bit, you would make a mark in a box. But you don’t really care, you just pretend to care.
Historically, when has voting ever stopped fascism? Do you have any historical knowledge of fascism, where you think you can stop it simply through the electoral process?
Your question is actually misleading. What you mean is “when did voting cause a fascist regime to hand over power peacefully”, but what’s not documented well in the history books is how many times a far right party lost an election, didn’t get their hands on real power and didn’t become a regime. The answer to the two questions is
What’s better? Wait till it happens and it gets so bad that people take up arms and even more death occurs to start the long road back to peaceful transfer of power or vote it away before it starts?
You can help to prevent this, but no, you’re claiming to care and hinting that you might be prepared to do something drastic, but if it comes down to putting a mark in a box, oh no, that’s asking too much. You’re completely deceiving yourself if you believe what you’re saying.
No, that’s not what I mean. America has a fascist problem, even if Biden wins fascism is still coming. I am directly asking you when fascism was stopped by voting against a fascist threat.
No, this is historically inaaccurate, hilariously so. The Nazis took power without being elected.
You can’t “vote it away,” fascists don’t care about electoral results. They sieze power. Voting for Biden slows the descent into fascism but does nothing to the core reasons why it exists, ie decaying Capitalism and dying Imperialism.
I’m actually suggesting organizing, touching grass, and building dual power. I do plan on voting, I myself am undecided. If the Democrats manage to completely reverse their genocidal tendencies and take a firm Anticapitalist stance, I would probably vote for them, but as it stands that just kicks the problem down the road while conditions continue to worsen.
Even if your points were correct, it’s an absurd conclusion to draw: voting mighn’t keep them out of power in the long so don’t try now? How stupid is that advice? Very.
The Nazi party came to hold the reigns of government by winning the largest number of seats in a parliamentary election. (In Europe coalition government is more common than in the USA.) No power, no regime.
For four years. Better than allowing it to happen this year!
Maybe we can kick the can down the road long enough for the Republican party to realise that cristofascism isn’t popular and if they want power ever again they’d better drop it.
What do the fascists want? People who care to stay home on election day or vote for everyone except the one that beat trump last time. What are you advocating? The same course of action. Literally the same.
Blah blah blah, but putting a mark in the box that matters is too much for you. Got it. Very sincere antifascist. /s