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      How is this anti environmental? It’s 100% true that a lot of environmentalist celebrities/politicians are massive hypocrites.

      World leaders and celebrities took private jets to a UN Climate summit.

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        It’s a common talking point of climate deniers, so they can excuse their own inaction.

        *Edit: speeeling

        • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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          Facebook people just casually ignore that we can do both too. This meme is definitely supposed to involve feelings of “stupid liberals” same as the arguments with EVs with “do you know where your electricity comes from hahaha stupid liberal”.

          They never think we can do both. That is as individuals should start getting familiar with being more eco focused while also holding the heaviest polluters responsible. That they are not mutually exclusive.

          Humans are fickle. In this meme we can say both the singer is good for promoting eco friendliness, but bad for being a large polluter. People don’t fit into black and white boxes. Facebook though, has completely monetized that theory

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              in terms of environmental, it’s a huge portion that is caused by the biggest polluters - but average humans combined also cause about 30-40% too. So I won’t call it a waste to focus on both at the same time

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                  Oh absolutely, the meme is stupid for sure. it’s just redirecting the public to think that it’s not a huge deal. My point is that we’re not “off the hook” because other people are worse. Even just at 20%, we should actively work to become greener, and those are incremental. Think about a heat pump instead of a gas furnace (or maybe a dual fuel). Think about taking the bus or walking vs driving. Etc etc."

                  However, the focus should be absolutely on the major polluters, those people are assholes and should be held accountable. In my book, things like the hurricane in Texas or the tornadoes across the midwest were directly because of the oil companies - and they should be held accountable for the destruction they allowed to happen.

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        World leaders and celebrities took private jets to a UN Climate summit.

        Would you have world leaders fly commercial? That’s just asking for an assassination.

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        I don’t quite see why. Their presence and actions affect the lives of thousands of people, and logistically doing the same with passenger vehicles is difficult due to schedules and fanaticism. The same cannot be said about 99% of people in traffic.

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            Trains are gas-using vehicles, and not many mobility advocates frown upon them.

            Bands transport lots of equipment as well as people that are often targeted. It’s not perfectly efficient to move them by limo, but there’s a logic to using something more than a bike or train.

            I don’t even see people hate on vans or trucks when they’re used to transport large quantities of goods around a city. If the vehicle is at least somewhat necessary for the purpose, that can be okay.

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      I think you’re completely misunderstanding the comic… it’s about hypocrisy, not anti-environmental.

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    OKay we get it it’s a bad faith classic, but it’s also true.

    Swift talks about the environment yet flies her damn jet as much as possible

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    What if I told you that the reason I want to save the planet and conserve energy is so that future generations can experience the things that make humanity so amazing?

    Like when your favorite band in the world plays a live show in your home town.

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      Saving the planet means acknowledging that certain things never should have existed in the first place.

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        Alright, so I guess we should just visit local concerts that we can only access by bus/train, since it’s putting less strain on the environment. All bands play in the same area, or at least in the same country (state, if you’re thinking big, like the US or similarly sized countries).

        But there’s NO way people from other states/countries wouldn’t want to visit their concert at least once. So every single concert, you would have people travel to your area from different countries, probably taking the plane. So now, instead of one band flying to places, you get dozens of people taking flights from various countries. Every single concert.

        It feels a bit like ordering online, where there is only one guy in a van delivering stuff to dozens of households instead of those households driving to the brick-and-mortar shop one by one.

        I’m not saying the current system is optimal. But I really wonder how else we could solve this particular problem.